Saturday, July 21, 2012

ARCHDIOCESE OF BOSTON IN A COVER UP ? SSPX, SLAVES OF THE IMMACULATE HEART OF MARY SAY THERE ARE 'NO EXCEPTIONS'

On the Archdiocese of Boston website no one is willing to respond to two questions asked of them in the com box available for comments and questions.

The Society of St.Pius X (SSPX)  Communique has stated that there are no exceptions to the literal interpretation of the thrice defined dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and there is no comment from the Archdiocese of Boston which once placed sanctions on one of its priests for saying  there were no exceptions.

The SSPX like the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, Fr.Leonard Feeney's communities, are saying clearly that there are no exceptions to the dogma on outside the church there is no salvation.

There is no known case of a non Catholic being saved in invincible ignorance, a good conscience, implicit desire, imperfect communion with the Church, seeds of the Word etc.

So the Archdiocese has been asked if they know anyone saved with the baptism of desire etc. They will not answer.

There silence seems a cover up of an injustice done to Fr.Leonard Feeney a priest of their Archdiocese.

If the baptism of desire is not visible how could Cardinal Richard Cushing , the Archbishop of Boston claim that it was an exception to the dogma ?-Lionel Andrades

8 comments:

George Brenner said...

When the verdict finally comes in on the rupture between SSPX and the Vatican, it is probably accurate to say that regardless of the outcome this will be a major juncture in Church history. Father Feeney's truth on centuries of Catholic teachings versus Cardinal Cushing's acquiescence and denial of Catholic doctrine in relation to non Catholics is having its earthly date in court right now. Cardinal Cushing compromised our faith and did untold moral damage to countless souls. We pray for our Holy Father.

"The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here; while it can never forget what they did here."
- Abraham Lincoln

donalmahoney said...

As the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary have pointed out for years, three popes have spoken ex cathedra to confirm that there is no salvation outside the Church.

Cardinal Cushing damaged severely a good man, Father Leonard Feeney, who died after receiving the Last Rites.

See www.catholicism.org for more information.

quotquot said...

If the SSPX believes as the Slaves do believe about B of D, then why do they continue to attack the Slaves and Fr Feeney's positions through silly books like Fr Laisney's?

George Brenner said...

From Sunday, July 23rd reading:

"
<< Jeremiah 23 >>
Douay-Rheims Bible
1 Woe to the pastors, that destroy and tear the sheep of my pasture, saith the Lord. 2 Therefore thus saith the Lord the God of Israel to the pastors that feed my people: You have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold I will visit upon you for the evil of your doings, saith the Lord. 3 And I will gather together the remnant of my flock, out of all the lands into which I have cast them out: and I will make them return to their own fields, and they shall increase and be multiplied. 4 And I will set up pastors over them, and they shall feed them: they shall fear no more, and they shall not be dismayed: and none shall be wanting of their number, saith the Lord. "

Running from, ignoring, encouraging and/or misleading the Church Faithful on correct teaching for many many decades on the doctrinally accurate understanding of Baptism of Blood, Desire and invincible Ignorance along with the abuses of Vatican II, not to mention the Culture wars concerning sins of the flesh must come to an end. Enough.

...And so we pray

Catholic Mission said...

Quot quot
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/07/sspx-communique-has-united-catholic.html#links

It would be useful if the St.Benedict Center(SBC) announces that there is no baptism of desire that we can humanly know of or know.

Theologically the SBC says those who have an implicit desire and charity can be saved with the baptism of water.

When it is also mentioned that there is no baptism of desire that we can know of which can contradict the dogma, some SBC supporters are silent just like SSPX priests and lay writers.

The SBC could clarify the obvious :
1)There are no known cases of non Catholics saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire

2) And so since these cases are not explicit they cannot contradict the literal interpretation of Fr. Leonard Feeney and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

Catholic Mission said...

quotquot
Neither is the Boston, Worcester or Manchester diocese commenting on the two questions asked of them- nor are the St.Benedict Center or the Catholic Action League of Massachusetts commenting on the two questions asked of the Archdiocese of Boston.

While on the other hand the SSPX has come out with a surprised to them all statement, supporting Fr. Leonard Feeney.

Does the St.Benedict Center, NH assume that ‘possibilities’ of the baptism of desire/implicit desire are known to us explicitly and so they could be considered an exception to the dogma and Fr. Leonard Feeney?

Catholic Mission said...

quotquot
I would like to quote Brother Andre Marie,Prior of St.Benedict Center,NH saying that
1. we do not know any case saved in the present time with the baptism of desire or in invincible ignorance.
2.Implicit desire/baptism of desire is not an explicit exception to the dogma.

Theologically the SBC can say implicit desire must be followed by the baptism of desire since the dogma cannot have exceptions for salvation.

Philosophically, intellectually, with our faculty to observe, can the SBC say that we do not know any of the dead saved with invincible ignorance etc and who are now in Heaven. We cannot see them objectively.
So of course there cannot be any exception to the dogma when this issue is seen philosophically.

George Brenner said...

As Father Feeney said teach exclusively ' No Salvation Outside the Catholic Church ' and Baptism by Water and "leave the mercies to God' which are unknown to us on earth. What is so hard to understand about this?

As an extraordinary minister of Holy Communion with hospital duties it has made me cry to hear from a patient that said since Vatican II we no longer need worry about Purgatory or worst yet to hear from so many that are confused by the lack of proper Cathechesis in teaching them the faith. ENOUGH !
.....and so we pray with Lionel
JMJ