On the forum Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus it is asked if there can be an exception to the dogma outside the church no salvation. This is an important question since it is also asking if Lumen Gentium 16 can be an (explicit) exception to the dogma which says every one needs the baptism of water and Catholic Faith for salvation; all need to convert into the Catholic Church to be saved.
Here is a comment, which needs to be clarified:
So if I follow your logic we must teach that there is No Salvation Outside the Church and everyone must be baptized with water, even though not everyone really needs to be baptized with water? There are no exceptions but there might be a few exceptions?
It could be rephrased:
According to my logic we must teach that there is No Salvation Outside the Church and every one ( on earth in 2012) must be baptized with water, since every one really needs to be baptized with water. There are no (known) exceptions and if there are implicit, unknown to us exceptions, known only to God, it does not contradict the dogma on exclusive salvation being there in only the Catholic Church.
The St.Benedict Centre has provided a definition of the baptism of desire which includes receiving the baptism of water. So they do not reject implicit desire or that a genuine implicit desire, known only to God, can be followed by God providing the means for the person to be baptized with water.
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