Friday, July 27, 2012

SSPX MUST ASK THE VATICAN TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT

Once the announcement is made every one will realize that we can all, SSPX and non SSPX, hold the traditional, rational interpretation of Vatican Council II.
On the blog THE BLOGGER PRIEST Fr. Joe Jenkins (1) is not admitting that we do not know people dead and saved in Heaven and that we cannot see those saved in invincible ignorance. Perhaps if he admits he agrees with me on this factual observation he thinks  it will contradict some of the teachings of the Church.

Priests do not want to admit the obvious in public and so it is not likely that the Vatican will concede an error.It  is important for the SSPX to ask the Vatican cardinals and bishops if we can see the dead-saved and if they are  explicit exceptions to the literal interpretation of the dogma on outside the church there is no salvation.
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A journalist could put the question this way.

NCR/ LifeSites (for example):

Your Eminence /Excellency,
Some of the supporters of the SSPX are saying that Vatican Council II is a traditional document with traditional values on other religions, ecumenism and religious liberty. Would you agree?

Bishop Gerhard Muller, Archbishop Augustine Di Noia or Cardinal Kurt Loch could respond: No.It is not.

Catholic National Register or Life Sites.com: Thy say an error was made in the Fr.Leonard Feeney case which has influenced our interpretation of Vatican Council II.

Vatican Curia: What is the error specifically?

NCR/Life Sites: That we don’t know the dead saved in invincible ignorance and implicit desire. Since we do not know these cases they are not explicit exceptions to the actual interpretation of the dogma. They are irrelevant to the dogma.

Vatican Curia: So what has this to do with Vatican Council II?

Journalist: So those saved in invincible ignorance or a good conscience (Lumen Gentium 16), elements of sanctification (Lumen Gentium 8), seeds of the Word are not explicit exceptions to the dogma outside the church no salvation.

You would agree that we do not know these cases?

Vatican Curia: Yes.

Journalist: So could the Vatican make an announcement that we do know these cases of the dead-saved. Vatican Council II does not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.


Vatican Curia: Yes. It is an objective fact. It cannot be denied.

Journalist: So once the announcement is made every one will realize that we can all, SSPX and non SSPX, hold the traditional, rational interpretation f Vatican Council II?

Vatican Curia:Yes. Honesty demands it.
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This single interpretation of Vatican Council II will be difficult for many to accept. Fr. Jenkns has even deleted the quotation from Ad Gentes 7.(2)
-Lionl Andrades

1.
http://bloggerpriest.com/2012/07/19/dim-prospects-for-the-society-of-pius-x/

2.
Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door.-Ad Gentes 7,Vatican Council II

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