Thursday, August 16, 2012

Dominican wouldn’t make it past the Inquisition

It was an abrupt surprise seeing the Dominican priest come to offer the 6 p.m Mass today evening at the Basilica Santa Maria Sopra Minerva,Rome.He is the priest at the book stand within the Church and I spoke to him a few days back.He does not believe in Hell, he thinks all religions are equal paths to salvation and that God is merciful and will save everybody.He rejects the dogma on salvation and also St.Catherine of Siena’s description of Hell.


He thinks St.Catherine of Siena whose tomb is at the centre altar of the Basilica, was relevant only for her time.


It was at this Church, in an adjoining monastery that the Inquisition correctly tried Galileo for trying to make political capital and create confusion among the people. It was over a fact known to the priest and bishops astronomers of that time (including Copernicus) that the earth revolves around the sun.


However on issues of faith this Dominican priest wouldn't have made it past that Inquisition. No Hell. No sin!


It’s no surprise that Catholics do not come for Mass on Sundays and do not think this is a mortal sin.


And here he was offering Mass and I was sitting in a pew in the front row of  the chapel.


At first I thought I would have to make a Spiritual Communion but then after the Gospel Reading I knew I could make it for Mass at 6.30 p.m at the Franciscan Conventual Church nearby where I went to pray on Aug 2, the day of the Indulgence.So I didn’t have to abstain from receiving the Eucharist today evening.


I do not know if this Dominican priest believes in what he was saying or was he trying to prevent himself and his community from being tried under leftist laws.I initially told him about this blog and the subject on which I keep writing.


These good religious have thrown away Church teachings now the next stage could be: they will hand us over to the police ( in the name of peace or whatever), we who are faithful to the Church.


So many priests understand that the Church made an error when it took the Richard Cushing path and so the baptism of desire is not an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. Yet they will not affirm the literal interpretation.


Once could say perhaps they really don’t understand that the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 made a mistake and so they should interpret Vatican Council II according to Fr.Leonard Feeney.


Perhaps - or, they could be protecting them self from being suspended...Religious Superiors have to protect their property and avoid claims for compensation.- Lionel Andrades

2 comments:

George Brenner said...

And so if we layman along with all clerics pray to understand the following as Heaven and therefore the Church through the guaranteed and forever eternal protection of the Holy Ghost understand what is said below, where will our prays lead us if we are of good will?:

Ordinary Magisterium

Pope Pelagius II (A.D. 578 – 590): “Consider the fact that whoever has not been in the peace and unity of the Church cannot have the Lord. …Although given over to flames and fires, they burn, or, thrown to wild beasts, they lay down their lives, there will not be (for them) that crown of faith but the punishment of faithlessness. …Such a one can be slain, he cannot be crowned. …[If] slain outside the Church, he cannot attain the rewards of the Church.” (Denzinger 246-247)

Pope Saint Gregory the Great (A.D. 590 – 604): “Now the holy Church universal proclaims that God cannot be truly worshipped saving within herself, asserting that all they that are without her shall never be saved.” (Moralia )







Pope Saint Pius X (A.D. 1903 – 1914): “It is our duty to recall to everyone great and small, as the Holy Pontiff Gregory did in ages past, the absolute necessity which is ours, to have recourse to this Church to effect our eternal salvation.” (Encyclical, Jucunda Sane )

Pope Benedict XV (A.D. 1914 – 1922): “Such is the nature of the Catholic faith that it does not admit of more or less, but must be held as a whole, or as a whole rejected: This is the Catholic faith, which unless a man believe faithfully and firmly, he cannot be saved.” (Encyclical, Ad Beatissimi Apostolorum )

Pope Pius XI (A.D. 1922 – 1939): “The Catholic Church alone is keeping the true worship. This is the font of truth, this is the house of faith, this is the temple of God; if any man enter not here, or if any man go forth from it, he is a stranger to the hope of life and salvation….Furthermore, in this one Church of Christ, no man can be or remain who does not accept, recognize and obey the authority and supremacy of Peter and his legitimate successors.” (Encyclical, Mortalium Animos )

Pope Pius XII (A.D. 1939 – 1958): “By divine mandate the interpreter and guardian of the Scriptures, and the depository of Sacred Tradition living within her, the Church alone is the entrance to salvation: She alone, by herself, and under the protection and guidance of the Holy Spirit, is the source of truth.” (Allocution to the Gregorian, October 17, 1953)



Extraordinary Magisterium

Then, as though to set this constant teaching of the Fathers, Doctors and Popes “in concrete,” so to speak, we have the following definitions from the Solemn Magisterium of the Church:

Pope Innocent III and Lateran Council IV (A.D. 1215): “One indeed is the universal Church of the faithful outside which no one at all is saved…”

Pope Boniface VIII in his Papal Bull Unam Sanctam (A.D. 1302): “We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff.”

Pope Eugene IV and the Council of Florence (A.D. 1438 – 1445): “[The most Holy Roman Church] firmly believes, professes, and proclaims that those not living within the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics cannot become participants in eternal life, but will depart `into everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels’ (Matt. 25:41), unless before the end of life the same have been added to the flock; and that the unity of the ecclesiastical body is so strong that only to those remaining in it are the sacraments of the Church of benefit for salvation, and do fastings, almsgiving, and other functions of piety and exercises of Christian service produce eternal reward, and that no one, whatever almsgiving he has practiced, even if he has shed blood for the name of Christ, can be saved, unless he has remained in the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church.”

ETC, ETC, ETC and so we pray

George Brenner said...


All Clerics and layman must pray that they may teach and understand the following as Heaven and all the Saints understands the following:

Ordinary Magisterium:

Pope Pelagius II (A.D. 578 – 590): “Consider the fact that whoever has not been in the peace and unity of the Church cannot have the Lord. …Although given over to flames and fires, they burn, or, thrown to wild beasts, they lay down their lives, there will not be (for them) that crown of faith but the punishment of faithlessness. …Such a one can be slain, he cannot be crowned. …[If] slain outside the Church, he cannot attain the rewards of the Church.” (Denzinger 246-247)

Pope Saint Gregory the Great (A.D. 590 – 604): “Now the holy Church universal proclaims that God cannot be truly worshipped saving within herself, asserting that all they that are without her shall never be saved.” (Moralia )
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Extraordinary Magisterium

Then, as though to set this constant teaching of the Fathers, Doctors and Popes “in concrete,” so to speak, we have the following definitions from the Solemn Magisterium of the Church:

Pope Innocent III and Lateran Council IV (A.D. 1215): “One indeed is the universal Church of the faithful outside which no one at all is saved…”

Pope Boniface VIII in his Papal Bull Unam Sanctam (A.D. 1302): “We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff.”

Pope Eugene IV and the Council of Florence (A.D. 1438 – 1445): “[The most Holy Roman Church] firmly believes, professes, and proclaims that those not living within the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics cannot become participants in eternal life, but will depart `into everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels’ (Matt. 25:41), unless before the end of life the same have been added to the flock; and that the unity of the ecclesiastical body is so strong that only to those remaining in it are the sacraments of the Church of benefit for salvation, and do fastings, almsgiving, and other functions of piety and exercises of Christian service produce eternal reward, and that no one, whatever almsgiving he has practiced, even if he has shed blood for the name of Christ, can be saved, unless he has remained in the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church.”