Friday, August 24, 2012

PATRICK MADRID AND PETER VERE ARE STILL DENYING THE FAITH ON EWTN TO KEEP THEIR JOB

Patrick Madrid and Peter Vere on EWTN are not saying that invincible ignorance etc are not exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.Instead they have put out a book against the Society of St.Pius X (SSPX).

Peter Vere is up to his nose in the Cushing error. See here.(1).He says.
Having said that, let us move to the larger question. It is clear from the Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC) promulgated by Pope John Paul II that the Church currently promotes aless exclusive understanding of the dogma “Outside the Church no salvation” (EENS) as well asthe effects of desire for baptism (BOD) and pre-baptismal martyrdom for the faith (BOB). Lest I be accused of bias in my canonical opinion, I want to note up-front that I personally accept the teaching on these issues outlined in the CCC.
Vere means he has 'a less exclusive understanding of the dogma' because he interprets BOD and BOB as known exceptions to the dogma.

 It is only God who can judge who has been saved with BOD and BOB.So BOD and BOB are not relevant to the dogma.If Cardinal Richard Cushing and the Letter of the Holy Office assumed that they were relevant to the dogma, it was an objective mistake. We do not know any case on earth.

Instead of correcting this mistake Patrick Madrid and Peter Vere are criticising the SSPX as extremists and they are posing as liberals.For them being saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire are known exceptions to the dogma? This is his interpretation of the Catechism of the Catholic Church?


According to Canon Law can we be a Catholic when we reject the defined dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and also Vatican council II (AG 7) with claims of being able to see the dead -saved, in invincible ignorance etc who are exceptions to the dogma? This is heresy and they are earning a living on it-Lionel Andrades

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