Wednesday, October 31, 2012

SEDEVACANTISTS AND SSPX- KETTLE CALLING THE POT BLACK OVER THE BAPTISM OF DESIRE

The Dimond Brothers like Fr.Joseph Pfeiffer, Superior of the Society of St. Pius X-SO are sure cases of the baptism of desire are visible to us in real life and so are exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

The Dimond brothers have  a video on the Internet  criticizing Fr.Joseph Pfeiffer for not rejecting the  baptism of desire like them. They  accuse him and the SSPX groups of being heretics.

Since the sedevacantists Peter and Michael Dimond assume that the baptism of desire is visible and known to us they reject it.They believe this would be a contradiction of the dogma. They reject the baptism of desire even though it is affirmed by the Council of Trent.

They have criticized the SSPX-SO not knowing it is the kettle calling the pot black. They both assume that the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance are not just a reference to cases in principle but to defacto known cases i.e. one can phone or meet on the street someone saved with the baptism of desire or in invincible ignorance.


So the sedevacantists Peter and Michael Dimond and the SSPX–SO condemn Vatican Council II .For them the Vatican Council II's  ‘implicit intentions’, invincible ignorance etc do not fit with the Catholic dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

It also caught my attention that this breakaway group being led by the priests and Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer in particular - Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer is one of the most outspoken members of the SSPX on the issue of "Baptism of Desire," "Salvation Outside the Church," and arguments that you don't need the Catholic faith for salvation.-Brother Peter Dimond, MHFM video

Peter Dimond does not think it through that one can affirm implicit baptism of desire along with the literal interpretation of outside the church there is no salvation. It does not contradict the Principle of Non Contradiction.


Lefebvre says that souls can be saved in non -catholic religions; Schmitberger said it; Fellay said it - it's in their publications - that's what all their priests believe - they hold that the non -catholic Vatican II church is non - catholic, yet it is still the Catholic Church and it's leaders are Catholic!

If souls are saved in other religions with the baptism of desire etc it is irrelevant to the literal interpretation of the dogma since these cases are known only to God.


Father Feeney, when in the 1940's and 1950's most of the world's bishops had embraced the idea that salvation could be attained outside the Catholic Church, which paved the way for the acceptance of Vatican II with little resistance, was severely persecuted for upholding the dogma Outside the Catholic Church There is No Salvation


Yes the Vatican like the sedevacantists and the SSPX groups are all one the same boat. For them the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance are explicitly known to us even though they cannot name any case in 2012.

When they all see the fault  they will know  that Vatican Council II is a  Council which is not a break from the past.

-Lionel Andrades



Subject: SSPX mini-schism

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