Mons. Andrea Lonardo, Director of the Office for Catechetics , Vicarage of Rome, is to speak today at the Church Santisima dei Pellegrini where the FSSP has the daily Mass in Latin. He represents the Vicariate which implies they can meet the dead who are saved and so Vatican Council II (LG 16 etc) rejects tradition. They would approve of a second excommunication of the SSPX by the CDF since they are sure that 'seeds of the word'(AG 11) refer to living ,known cases who are exceptions to the salvation dogma and the Syllabus of Errors.
If the deceased saved in invincible ignorance etc were not known to us Vatican Council II, for the Vicariate and the FSSP, would be a traditional Council.So then there could not be excommunication 2 of the SSPX.
Today he speaks at the Church in Rome, where the FSSP Rector, like the Vicariate cannot say all non Catholics are oriented to Hell according to Vatican Council II (AG 7) and the literal intepretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
Mons. Lonardo is to speak on a politically approved neutral subject of God the Creator.He will not say that according to Vatican Council II(G 7,LG 14) those who believe in God as Creator but do not have Catholic Faith and are not baptized with water are oriented to Hell. He cannot say that Vatican Council II affirms the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
If he did affirm the dogma in accord with the Council there would be no need for excommunication N.2 of the SSPX by the CDF. They would realize that Vatican Council II without the false premise is in accord with the SSPX position on other religions, ecumenism and religious liberty.-Lionel Andrades
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Baptism by Water is the ordinary form and must be the only teaching mission of the Church allowed in explaining Salvation. Baptism of Desire is an extraordinary possibility of mercy that exists before God alone and is not an exception or part of the teaching mission of the Catholic Church. There are no circumstances that the Church should teach that Baptism of Desire is an explicit option known to us on Earth.
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