Monday, December 10, 2012

If Vatican Council II is in accord with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus them most people do not go to Heaven.

The Church's traditional teaching has been that most people go to Hell.If Vatican Council II is in accord with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus them most people do not go to Heaven.


There are Catholic priests in Rome who say we do not know any case of a visible baptism of desire. So Vatican Council II does not contradict itself or the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Church defined three times.


 Vatican Council II has no known exceptions to the dogma i.e there is no known salvation outside the church, then this contradicts the Medugorje message which says most people go to heaven.


Unless, there is another reason or another factor that we do not know about.- Lionel Andrades
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OUR LADY AT MEDUGORJE SAYS 'the eternal value of going to confession cannot be over-estimated'.

May Holy Confession be the first act of conversion for you and then, dear children, decide for holiness. May your conversion and decision for holiness begin today and not tomorrow.” (November 25th 1998)

“Dear children! In the great love of God, I come to you today to lead you on the way of humility and meekness. The first station on that way, my children, is Confession. Reject your arrogance and kneel down before my Son. Comprehend, my children, that you have nothing and can do nothing. The only thing that is yours and what you possess is sin. Be cleansed and accept meekness and humility. My Son could have won with strength, but He chose meekness, humility and love. Follow my Son and give me your hand so that, together, we may climb the mountain and win. Thank you.” (July 2nd 2007)

“One must invite people to go to Confession each month, especially the first Saturday. (…) Monthly Confession will be a remedy for the Church in the West. One must convey this message to the West.” (August 6th 1982)

“Pray, pray! It is necessary to believe firmly, to go to Confession regularly, and likewise to receive Holy Communion. It is the only salvation.” (February 10th 1982)

According to the Virgin Mary (who is viewing everything in the light of God’s eternity), the eternal value of going to confession cannot be over-estimated:

“Whoever has done very much evil during his life can go straight to Heaven if he confesses, is sorry for what he has done, and receives Communion at the end of his life.” (July 24th 1982)

Photo of long lines for Confession at Medugorje.
from the Medugorje website.

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