THERE IS A NEW EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS FORUM STARTED BY DONALD E. FLOOD : IT DOES NOT CONSIDER THE BAPTISM OF DESIRE AS BEING VISIBLE AND SO AN EXCEPTION TO THE DOGMA ON SALVATION

There is a new Extra  Ecclesiam Nulla Salus Forum started by Donald E.Flood which does not consider invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire as being exceptions to the dogma on salvation.

It accepts the possibility of a person being saved in invincible ignorance or the baptism of desire.However since these cases are not known to us in 2013  they cannot be exceptions to the everyone needing to be a visible member of the Catholic Church.Invisible cases are not exceptions.

The new forum does not have the understanding of extra ecclesiam nulla salus according to the liberals and the Society of St.Pius X priests, Father Francois Laisney and Joseph Pfeiffer (SSPX-SO). For them the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance are physically visible exceptions to the thrice defined dogma.

Donald  E.Flood  is an orthodox, traditional Catholic, fluent in informatics.He has the ability to see clearly  and express himself well on this subject.He was formerly writing under the name Jehanne on an Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus Forum which considered the baptism of desire as visible  and so an exception to every one needing to be a visible member of the Church for salvation. This is contrary to the thrice defined dogma,Vatican Council II (AG 7) and other Magisterial texts (CCC 846,Dominus Iesus 20, Letter of the Holy Office 1949 etc.

-Lionel Andrades

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