Monday, February 4, 2013

Traditionalist Internet forums

There are Traditionalists Internet forums. There is also the extra ecclesiam nulla salus forum and I know some of its members have  over the years been banned on other forums because of their understanding of extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

So what is the understanding of extra ecclesiam nulla salus among informed traditionalists ? Is it the same as for the liberals?

We have extra ecclesiam nulla salus as understood by Fr.Leonard Feeney with no exceptions of the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance. The dogma does not mention exceptions.This is the extra ecclesiam nulla salus of the popes and Councils. This is the dogma according to the saints including St.Maximillian Kolbe in 1930s. This is the interpretation which is there in Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441,Vatican Council II (AG 7) and the Catechism of the Catholic Church 846.

Then we have the extra ecclesiam nulla salus in which the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance are explicit and so exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.This is the extra ecclesiam nulla salus according to traditional and liberal forums.It is that of the Left.This is the understanding of the dogma according to Cardinal Richard Cushing the former Archbishop of Boston.

Secondly, all  who post on Traditionalist forums and other Catholic forums  come with a common understanding of reality.We are all on earth.


For me the apple falls donward.It does not rise.Night follows day.Summer follows winter.When someone is dead and buried he is no more visible. He is not seen walking.


I assume this is also the reality of the Administrators of Catholic forums.


So if someone in the forum insists that the dead are visible then the Admin. must point it out that this is a different reality shared by the poster.
-Lionel Andrades

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