Monday, April 1, 2013

All Muslims including the Prophet Mohammad would be lost according to Vatican Council II and the Catechism is not taught by the Catholic Renewal and Evangelisation Diocesan Office in the Archdiocese of Sydney.

That all Muslims including the Prophet Mohammad would be lost according to Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church, would not be the message or doctrine of the Catholic Renewal and Evangelisation Diocesan Office (CREDO) in the Archdiocese of Sydney.

According to Vatican Council II ( LG 14, AG 7)

Therefore those men cannot be saved, who though aware that God, through Jesus Christ founded the Church as something necessary, still do not wish to enter into it, or to persevere in it."

Whosoever, therefore, knowing that the Catholic Church was made necessary by Christ, would refuse to enter or to remain in it, could not be saved.
The Koran indicates that Mohammad knew about Jesus and the Church and yet he founded a new religion and neither did he convert.
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Vatican Council II also says all need 'faith and baptism' for salvation.The founder of the Muslim religion did not choose to be baptised with water.
Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door...
God is fully glorified, provided that men fully and consciously accept His work of salvation, which He has accomplished in Christ.-Ad Gentes 7,Vatican Council II.
The Catechism of the Catholic Church mentions this same requirement for salvation (CCC 846,845,1257). CREDO in Sydney has never stated that according to Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church all Muslims in Sydney need Catholic Faith and the baptism of water to go Heaven and to avoid Hell.

It would be heresy, a mortal sin for them not accept Vatican Council II, the Catechism of the Catholic Church and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

It's also syncretistic to appeal to Muslims to enter the Church and only a belief in Jesus is enough.This would mean they would be saved even if they  are joining a Protestant community or the Orthodox Church or the Jehovah's Witnesses. According to the CREDO message, on the Archdiocese website, only a belief in Jesus is enough for salvation.This is Protestantism.

On the True Catholic discussion board Fr.John George of the Archdiocese of Sydney, and other Catholics are unable, as expected, to name any person in 2013 saved in invincible ignorance, the baptism of desire, the seeds of the Word, imperfect communion with the Church, elements of sanctification, a good conscience, being good and holy non Catholics etc. So CREDO could teach the doctrine that all non Catholics in Sydney, Muslims included, need to convert into the Church for salvation and there are no known exceptions.
This was also the traditional Catholic reason for mission.

Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church are traditional on this issue. They are in agreement with the saints and popes. Pope John Paul II was missionary in Dominus Iesus and the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

The Archdiocese of Sydney could have respect and tolerance for Muslims and also speak the truth about the Catholic Faith.-Lionel Andrades


http://www.sydneycatholic.org/works/all_agencies_in_sydney.asp?ID=103




Video- Michael Voris indicates in another context that the Archdiocese of Sydney cannot name any exceptions. If the Archdiocese of New York does not know of any exceptions, then neither does the Archdiocese of Sydney. CREDO is in same position as Fr.Jonathan Morris.

http://youtu.be/ylVcrYlpOBc    

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