Robert Sungenis responds : but still without any apologetics.

I have received this response from the apologist Robert Sungenis. I am posting it unedited.

 

 

Lionel,

Here is my response. You can post this, and this only.

To whom it may concern: Lionel Andrades, in my opinion, is dishonest and I want nothing to do with him. When he contacted me by email several weeks ago and began corresponding with me about the Church's doctrine of Extra Ecclesium Nulla Salus [EENS], I told him that my dialogue with him was private and that I did not give him permission to post any of it, or even his opinions about it. Mr. Andrades ignored my request, and continues to do so even though I have reminded him of his sin, which includes detraction, false accusations, and slander. In my opinion, Mr. Andrades has not only distorted my teachings and beliefs on the Church's doctrine of EENS, he is also ignorant of the Church's true teaching. Having appointed himself as the sole arbiter of the Church's teaching, Mr. Andrades parades around the Internet, using his own views as the standard of judgment, and condemns and publicizes the condemnation of anyone who deviates from his own views. I must say that, in examining Mr. Andrades' blog, many other people have seen his sin of detraction for what it really is, and no one seems interested in what he has to say, since, the last time I looked, he has received no responses to his diatribes. The only response that will be listed (if Mr. Andrades wants to have the least semblance of honesty) is the one I am writing presently. In my opinion, it is quite ironic that Mr. Andrades parades around the Internet questioning everyone's salvation, yet it appears that he has a log in his own eye that he has never removed. Hence, it is he who should be examining whether he himself is still saved, since the sins of dishonesty and detraction are mortal. I would implore everyone who reads this to pray for the soul of Lionel Andrades.

Robert Sungenis

May 19, 2013

Copy to Fr. Brian Harrison
____________________________________________

 

Lionel:

Before I posted the original report about Sungenis on the First Saturday of this month I e-mailed him and asked him to make any clarification he wanted.He did not respond.So I went ahead and posted the report on my blog.
 In earlier correspondence with me he mentioned that I should consult him before posting any thing. So he knew that the correspondence was not private. I also mentioned in our correspondence that I had asked him questions ( to which he did not respond) with the intention of quoting him. I have done this in the past too but the reports about him in the past were positive.This one was not.I have sent him the e-mail copies of what I mention here i.e (1)informing him asking him for clarifications, (2) his mentioning that before quoting him I should consult him and (3) my mentioning that I want to quote.

He had no response apologetically to the initial copy and neither does he have any now, after so many reports are written, with his apologetics being the subject.-L.A