SSPX DECLARATION IMPLIES POPE PIUS XII MADE A MISTAKE

If Vatican Council II is a break with the past regarding other religions, according to the SSPX Declaration, then Vatican Council II is a break with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.If those saved in invincible ignorance etc are known exceptions to the dogma on salvation; the break with the past,  then the popes and Councils of the past made a mistake. They did not know this ?!

 

It means Pope Pius XII in Mystici Corporis was saying there can be non Catholics saved in invincible ignorance or implicit desire and there actually are these cases ; we know them,we can name them and - so they are known exceptions to the dogma on salvation.The pope knew this?

Since the SSPX bishops can also name these cases, whom they know are personal exceptions to the dogma on salvation ( and the traditional teaching on other religions) and since these cases are mentioned in Vatican Council II (are they?) for them,-they reject Vatican Council II.They reject the Council because they can see the deceased mentioned in Vatican Council II who are exceptions to Tradition!?!

So the SSPX's bishops recent Declaration rejecting Vatican Council II is implying that Pope Pius XII and other popes , made a mistake. The popes were saying there were exceptions,according to SSPX recent Declaration and  over many years on the SSPX websites.So the popes could see the dead; the dead in Heaven or on earth?

May be the SSPX bishops do not realize it but this Declaration implies that Pope Pius XII did not know that there cannot be exceptions to the dogma. For the SSPX , Pope Pius XII did not realize that we cannot see the dead-saved, for them to be exceptions to Tradition.Or if he was saying there are exceptions, he was implying that he and others could see the deceased.Objectively this is not possible but this is what the SSPX Declaration implies.

 

When there are no known cases of the 'deceased on earth' saved with the baptism of desire , can these cases be exceptions to all needing to convert into the Church to avoid Hell? (Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441, extra ecclesiam nulla salus).

The SSPX bishops have made an objective mistake.When I say this I am not using the apologetics of the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, the communities of Fr.Leonard Feeney in the USA. I am not saying like Fr.Leonard Feeney's communities that 'there is no baptism of desire'. I am saying there is no known baptism of desire.There is no physically visible case.

There is no physically visible case of salvation for us,including those whom the Church has declared saints.We accept the saints in faith. Physically we cannot see them.Personally we cannot meet them on earth.

 

Since we physically cannot see the dead how can they be exceptions in 2013 to all needing to convert visibly into the Church (with faith and baptism, AG 7) for salvation.

 

So if the SSPX bishops cannot know any exception in 2013 , how can Vatican Council II contradict Tradition on the issue of other religions ?

 

Where does the Church say that we can see the deceased in Heaven? Where does the Council say that there are such known exceptions? Nowhere!

We just have to wait until the SSPX and other traditionalists, the liberals and the Roman Curia, come back to Tradition-which includes Vatican Council II.-Lionel Andrades