Are you referring to BOD(baptism of desire) visible to us or BOD invisible for us ?

On a sedevacantist blog I have sending comments which have suppressed by the blog owner. Here is a copy of the latest comments. I do not expect any answers from the Most Holy Family Monastery.-L.A

When will Bro.Peter and Michael Dimond clarify the following points ?

 

Catholic 2007 said:
At the moment your thinking demonstrates that you are not really a Catholic, you only think you are...

You reject EENS (extra ecclesiam nulla salus )...

 

Lionel:

Would I be accepting EENS if I said that the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance are not known to us in the present times?. Since these cases are known only to God they are not known exceptions to the traditional interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus?
So I could accept EENS alongwith implicit for us baptism of desire etc.It would not contradict the Principle of Non Contradiction.

If there is an apple in a box of oranges, the apple is an exception because it exists.If it was not there in the box it would not be an exception.
We cannot see or meet anyone saved with the baptism of desire etc.

 

Catholic 2007:

You believe the New Mass is a true Mass - it is not, and must be avoided.

 

Lionel:

It is the Sacrifice of Jesus reenacted in an unbloody way.

 

Catholic 2007:

You still believe in BOD...

 

Lionel:

Are you referring to BOD(baptism of desire) visible to us or BOD invisible for us ? If it is invisible for us then I can believe it is a possibility known only to God. It does not contradict Peter and Michael's interpretation of EENS.It is not an exception to the dogma on salvation.

 

Catholic 2007:

You appear to accept the Vatican II Church and it's "popes" as true popes, when they are not, and so their "canonizations" are meaningless.

 

Lionel:

When you refer to the Vatican Council II Church are you referring to Vatican Council II according to Cushingism or Feeneyism ?

Cushingism assumes the dead saved in invincible ignorance are visible to us on earth and so are exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
Feeneyism assumes that we cannot see these dead-saved and so there are no exceptions to the dogma EENS.

One can use Cushingism to interpret the Catechism, Dominus Iesus etc.Cushingism is irrational.

 

Catholic 2007:

All the hypothetical cases you raised have been well aired on the MHFM website, which you should have studied by now.( http://www.vaticancatholic.com )

 

Lionel:

The above points which I have mentioned have never been dealt with by Peter and Michael. It has been a few years since I have been posting them material and asking questions.
-Lionel Andrades

 

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