Monday, January 20, 2014

Archbishop Muller and the SSPX are both using the irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II with the false premise of being able to see people in Heaven

Abp. Müller: “The canonical excommunication of the bishops for their illegal ordinations was revoked, but a de facto sacramental excommunication remains for their schism; they put themselves out of communion with the Church." (1) 
 
1. If you say Vatican Council II does contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus,the Syllabus of Errors and Tradition on the issue of other religions and Christian communities and churches, it means you consider all salvation, referred to in Vatican Council II as being visible to us, explicit on earth and Heaven. It is true the Council does contradict the dogma.The Council would contradict the dogma when this irrational premise is used!
2.If you say Vatican Council II does not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Syllabus of Errors and Tradition on the issue of other religions and Christian communities and churches, it means you consider all salvation, referred to in Vatican Council II as being invisible to us, on earth.They are hypothetical cases, possibilities, known only to God. It is true Vatican Council II does not contradict the dogma.The Council would not contradict the dogma when the irrational premise is not used!
 
Either way it depends not on Vatican Council II but if you consider all salvation referred to in the Council as being visible or invisible, explicit or implicit.
 
So I can accept Vatican Council II affirming all salvation mentioned in the Council is invisible for me and so there are no known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Syllabus of Errors and Tradition with reference to other religions and Christian communities and churches.
 
I affirm Vatican Council II and I deny that there are known exceptions to the dogma in 2014. So while affirming Vatican Council II I deny the 'theology of religions' since there is no known salvation outside the Catholic  Church in 2014.
I reject the new ecclesiology and affirm the traditional ecclesiology since there is no known exception outside the Church.So there is no basis for a new ecclesiology.
 
I attend Mass in the vernacular. I also attend the Traditional Latin Mass. Ecclesiology and doctrine are not dependent on the liturgy as the secularists and the Left assume.
 
Archbishop Muller and the SSPX are both using the irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II with the false premise of being able to see people on Heaven.Perhaps the error is unintentional and innocent.
 
So the SSPX could affirm Vatican Council II without the false premise, without indicating all salvation mentioned in the Council is visible for them. They would then still be affirming their traditional values. Ad Gentes 7 (all need 'faith and baptism') is in accord with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. Protestants and Orthodox Christians do not have Catholic Faith, which include the moral and faith teachings of the Catholic Church, needed to avoid mortal sin and maintain Sanctifying Grace.Hindus, Jews,Muslims etc do not have Catholic Faith nor the baptism of water needed for salvation.
 
The SSPX members  could still offer/attend the Traditional Latin  Mass since they would not be denying Vatican Council II nor their traditional values.The Council is traditional without the Muller error.
 
Vatican Council II is traditional without the  'visible salvation in Heaven' error. The SSPX does not put themself out of the Church if they affirm Vatican Council with the traditional ecclesiology.
 
The irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II leads to heresy. This is the heretical interpretation of the Vatican Curia being forced upon the SSPX. They affirm Tradition and Archbishop Muller wants them to affirm new doctrine; that of being able to see the dead in Heaven. No Church document makes this claim but this is being implied by him.
-Lionel Andrades

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http://www.dici.org/en/news/concerning-a-statement-by-abp-muller-on-the-schism-of-the-society-of-st-pius-x/

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