Saturday, March 1, 2014

What about me Fr.Angelo GeigerF.I ?

What about me Fr.Angelo Geiger F.I ? (1)
I accept Vatican Council II.
However I accept that salvation mentioned, referred to or alluded to in Vatican Council II  is invisible for me and visible only for God. Since it is invisible for me in 2014  there are no known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. There is nothing in Vatican Council II which contradicts the traditional teaching on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.Do you also believe that all salvation referred to in Vatican Council II is invisible for us on earth ?
So being  saved in invincible ignorance (LG 16)  is irrelevant to the traditional interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was known to the saints Robert Bellarmine, Francis of Assisi and St.Anthony Marie Claret ?
I am not denying Vatican Council II. I am only denying that being saved in invincible ignorance (LG 16) etc, can be visible in the flesh for all of us. I am accepting invisible for us  LG 16 as a possibility. I am denying explicit for us LG 16.
I am affirming the baptism of desire in faith. I am denying that it is defacto and  visible to us human beings.
This would mean all Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, Muslims and others need 'faith and baptism' (Ad Gentes 7)  to avoid Hell and there are no exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council II ?

This is the traditional teaching that Dignatis Humanae(DH),Vatican Council II  asks us Catholics to proclaim.DH mentions that we have the religious liberty, in a state with a secular Constitution, to proclaim traditional teachings of the Catholic Church.

So what about the Society of St.Pius X (SSPX) ? Would it be sufficient for you if they affirm Vatican Council II just like me?

And what about Fr.Stefano Mannelli F.I  and other members of the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate, could they also accept Vatican Council II just like me?
-Lionel Andrades
First Saturday
Father Angelo Mary Geiger

(These two blog posts have been e-mailed to him).

Father Angelo Mary Geiger F.I criticizes Patrick Archbald on the SSPX

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