Another baptism of desire list in which it is assumed that the deceased are visible to us

Ambrose on the forum CathInfo says that the Church teaches the baptism of desire and baptism of Blood which he assumes are exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus .If they are exceptions then these cases must be explicit. If they are not seen in real life how can they be exceptions to all needing the baptism of water for salvation.

 

So here is his list. Except for the Holy Office 1949 none of those whom he has mentioned states or infers  that the baptism of desire is explicit for us .Neither is it said that they are exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

It is Ambrose who assumes that the baptism of desire and blood refer to explicit, visible cases in the present times.He infers it! The text does not mention it!He infers that these cases are explicit exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus. The text does not state this.

 

The Holy Office 1949 assumes that the deceased now in Heaven saved with the baptism of desire are explicit for us.The dead are visible for us! So these deceased are saved outside the Church. So these deceased, the Holy Office inferred are explicit exceptions to the traditional interpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney.

The SSPX like Cath Info makes the same mistake as Ambrose.

Here is Ambrose's list.

The fact is that the Catholic Church teaches Baptism of Desire and Blood. 

This teaching has been taught by the Church by:

The Council of Trent,
The Catechism of the Council of Trent (St. Pius V),
Many Popes,
The Holy Office,
St. Thomas Aquinas,
St. Bernard of Clairvoux,
St. Bonaventure,
St. Catherine of Sienna (in her dialogues with God),
St. Robert Bellarmine,
St. Alphonus Liguori,
St. Pius X,
Pope Pius XII,
The Code of Canon Law,
All Dogmatic Theologians in the last millennium,
Dozens of approved Pre Vatican II Catechism,
All approved Catholic books published in the last 1,000 years,
And the list can go on.

Do not be tricked by sophistries out of your Catholic Faith.

Before the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 the catholic Faith did not consider the Baptism of Deisre as an exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.How can the deceased be exceptions?
Implicit baptism of desire is not an exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salus. So for instance, St. Catherine of Siena could refer to someone who may have been saved with the baptism of desire or in invincible ignorance and she , at the same time, also believed that all need the baptism of water with no exceptions, for salvation.It is only because Ambrose assumes that the baptism of desire is explicit for us that it becomes an exception for him.
-Lionel Andrades
http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Lest-Anyone-Think-I-am-Exaggerating-About-These-Heretics