Friday, February 20, 2015

Pope Francis interprets Vatican Council II with the irrational premise which comes from the Letter of the Holy Office 1949

There is a leftist propaganda blog titled Robert Sungenis and the Jews which does not say that Vatican Council II indicates all Jews and other non Catholics need 'faith and baptism'(AG  7,LG 14) for salvation ( to avoid Hell).This is also the Church teaching on the Jews after Vatican Council II.
 Risultati immagini per Photo of Vatican Council II
Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door.-Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II
Basing itself upon Sacred Scripture and Tradition, it teaches that the Church, now sojourning on earth as an exile, is necessary for salvation. Christ, present to us in His Body, which is the Church, is the one Mediator and the unique way of salvation. In explicit terms He Himself affirmed the necessity of faith and baptism(124) and thereby affirmed also the necessity of the Church, for through baptism as through a door men enter the Church.
-Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II.
 
 
The Catholic Church on the Jewish People

Catechism of Trent, Article IV


Our sins consigned Christ the Lord to the death of the cross, most certainly those who wallow in sin and iniquity crucify to themselves again the Son of God, as far as in them lies, and make a mockery of Him. This guilt seems more enormous in us than in the Jews, since according to the testimony of the same Apostle: If they had known it, they would never have crucified the Lord of glory; while we, on the contrary, professing to know Him, yet denying Him by our actions, seem in some sort to lay violent hands on him.
(Lionel: This passage does not say that Jews do not need faith and baptism for salvation or that we know of any exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus or Ad Gentes 7 and Lumen Gentium 14 ( quoted above).
  

Finally, those who have not yet received the Gospel are related in various ways to the people of God. In the first place we must recall the people to whom the testament and the promises were given and from whom Christ was born according to the flesh. On account of their fathers this people remains most dear to God, for God does not repent of the gifts He makes nor of the calls He issues.
(Lionel: It does not say that they do not need 'faith and baptism' for salvation or that we know of any exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus or Ad Gentes 7 and Lumen Gentium 14.)
Nostra Aetate 4:

As the sacred synod searches into the mystery of the Church, it remembers the bond that spiritually ties the people of the New Covenant to Abraham's stock.
Thus the Church of Christ acknowledges that, according to God's saving design, the beginnings of her faith and her election are found already among the Patriarchs, Moses and the prophets. She professes that all who believe in Christ-Abraham's sons according to faith -are included in the same Patriarch's call, and likewise that the salvation of the Church is mysteriously foreshadowed by the chosen people's exodus from the land of bondage. The Church, therefore, cannot forget that she received the revelation of the Old Testament through the people with whom God in His inexpressible mercy concluded the Ancient Covenant. Nor can she forget that she draws sustenance from the root of that well-cultivated olive tree onto which have been grafted the wild shoots, the Gentiles. Indeed, the Church believes that by His cross Christ, Our Peace, reconciled Jews and Gentiles. making both one in Himself.
( Lionel: Yes,Jesus was the Messiah for whom the Jews were waiting.)
The Church keeps ever in mind the words of the Apostle about his kinsmen: "theirs is the sonship and the glory and the covenants and the law and the worship and the promises; theirs are the fathers and from them is the Christ according to the flesh" (Rom. 9:4-5), the Son of the Virgin Mary. She also recalls that the Apostles, the Church's main-stay and pillars, as well as most of the early disciples who proclaimed Christ's Gospel to the world, sprang from the Jewish people.
(Lionel: Yes and those who accept Jesus as the Messiah and are baptised in the Catholic Church will be saved)
As Holy Scripture testifies, Jerusalem did not recognize the time of her visitation, nor did the Jews in large number, accept the Gospel; indeed not a few opposed its spreading. Nevertheless, God holds the Jews most dear for the sake of their Fathers; He does not repent of the gifts He makes or of the calls He issues-such is the witness of the Apostle. In company with the Prophets and the same Apostle, the Church awaits that day, known to God alone, on which all peoples will address the Lord in a single voice and "serve him shoulder to shoulder" (Soph. 3:9).
(Lionel: During the present times they need to convert into the Catholic Church with 'faith and baptism'(AG 7) for salvation. This  is the teaching of Vatican Council II .)
Since the spiritual patrimony common to Christians and Jews is thus so great, this sacred synod wants to foster and recommend that mutual understanding and respect which is the fruit, above all, of biblical and theological studies as well as of fraternal dialogues.
(Lionel: Traditional Biblical interpretations and post Vatican Council II theology, without the Cardinal Marchetti Selvaggiani premise, inidicate Jews need to convert in the present times for salvation).
True, the Jewish authorities and those who followed their lead pressed for the death of Christ; still, what happened in His passion cannot be charged against all the Jews, without distinction, then alive, nor against the Jews of today. Although the Church is the new people of God, the Jews should not be presented as rejected or accursed by God, as if this followed from the Holy Scriptures. All should see to it, then, that in catechetical work or in the preaching of the word of God they do not teach anything that does not conform to the truth of the Gospel and the spirit of Christ.
(Lionel: 'Although the Church is the new people of God'! (Nostra Aetate).Vatican Council II says Catholics are the new people of God. The Jews without the Messiah are no more the Chosen People.They were the Chosen People form whom the Jewish Messiah originated.The Gospel and the Traditional teachings tell us that if the Jews accept Jesus with faith and baptism in the Catholic Church they are not on the way to Hell. This is confirmed also in Vatican Council II (AG 7, LG 14) which is not mentioned in this article which is politically pro-Jewish Left.)
Furthermore, in her rejection of every persecution against any man, the Church, mindful of the patrimony she shares with the Jews and moved not by political reasons but by the Gospel's spiritual love, decries hatred, persecutions, displays of anti-Semitism, directed against Jews at any time and by anyone.
( Lionel:  Jesus ,in the Gospels says Jews need to convert for salvation )
Besides, as the Church has always held and holds now, Christ underwent His passion and death freely, because of the sins of men and out of infinite love, in order that all may reach salvation. It is, therefore, the burden of the Church's preaching to proclaim the cross of Christ as the sign of God's all-embracing love and as the fountain from which every grace flows.
(Lionel: Those who reject Jesus' Supreme Sacrifice on the Cross by not formally being a member of the Catholic Church with 'faith and baptism'(LG 14,AG 7) have rejected the grace which was available for them.)


247. We hold the Jewish people in special regard because their covenant with God has never been revoked, for “the gifts and the call of God are irrevocable” (Rom 11:29). The Church, which shares with Jews an important part of the sacred Scriptures, looks upon the people of the covenant and their faith as one of the sacred roots of her own Christian identity (cf. Rom 11:16-18). As Christians, we cannot consider Judaism as a foreign religion; nor do we include the Jews among those called to turn from idols and to serve the true God (cf. 1 Thes 1:9). With them, we believe in the one God who acts in history, and with them we accept his revealed word.
248. Dialogue and friendship with the children of Israel are part of the life of Jesus’ disciples. The friendship which has grown between us makes us bitterly and sincerely regret the terrible persecutions which they have endured, and continue to endure, especially those that have involved Christians.
249. God continues to work among the people of the Old Covenant and to bring forth treasures of wisdom which flow from their encounter with his word. For this reason, the Church also is enriched when she receives the values of Judaism. While it is true that certain Christian beliefs are unacceptable to Judaism, and that the Church cannot refrain from proclaiming Jesus as Lord and Messiah, there exists as well a rich complementarity which allows us to read the texts of the Hebrew Scriptures together and to help one another to mine the riches of God’s word. We can also share many ethical convictions and a common concern for justice and the development of peoples. 

(Lionel: Pope Francis interprets Vatican Council II with the irrational premise which comes from the Letter of the Holy Office 1949. So Vatican Council II would be a break with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus for him.Also Ad Gentes 7 and Lumen Gentium 14 would be contradicted by Nostra Aetate 2, Lumen Gentium 16 etc, with Marchetti's 'known
exceptions'.
Controversial Evangelii Gaudium  permits the Eucharist to be given to
persons in mortal sin. This is contrary to the faith- teachings of the Catholic Church.
 Evangelii Gaudium  also presents a kerygma without teaching the necessity of formal  entry into the Catholic Church for salvation. So it is a break with pre-1949 Magisterium.It presents Jesus without the necessity of the Church.This contradicts Lumen Gentium 14 and Ad Gentes 7 which says all need faith and baptism for salvation and that the Church is necessary for salvation.
It has changed the Nicene Creed, 'I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sin' to 'I believe in three or more known baptisms for the forgivessness of sins' This has come about with the Marchetti irrationality. It has rejected the defined dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. The pope interprets Vatican Council II with an objective, factual error  originating with the Holy Office, the Archdiocese of Boston  and the Jesuits in 1949.) 
- Lionel Andrades 
http://www.sungenisandthejews.com/ChurchTeachingontheJews.html

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