So if LG 16, LG 8, UR 3, NA 2 are not explicit for us in 2015 ( and they are not) then there is nothing in Vatican Council II to contradict Feeneyism.

Viterbo:
Interesting. To teach a 'dogma' of exceptions from dogma, is a bit mad.

Lionel:
Exactly the dogma did not mention any exceptions.
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 I never knew Fr Hardon taught 'this'.
Lionel:
For Fr.John Hardon the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance were exceptions to the strict interpretatiion of the dogma. He affirms this in an article which can be read on line. He also over looked this error in the Catechism of the Catholic Church (1257).He was a consultant on the Catechism.____________________

 A bit confused about how 'Feenyism' can be used as an example.
Lionel:
Feeneyism affirms the strict interpretation of the dogma.There are no explicit exceptions.
So if LG 16, LG 8, UR 3, NA 2 are not explciit for us in 2015 ( and they are not) then there is nothing in Vatican Council II to contradict Feeneyism._______________________

The Church's doctrine on baptism of blood and invincible ignorance were what Feeny was trying to run-over with his personal dogma on salvation.
Lionel:
That's one version.
Another is that Fr.Feeney was saying there is no salvation outside the Church. While Cardinals Marchetti and Cushing were saying there is salvation outside the Church.
We now know that Fr.Feeney was correct.
1.Since the cardinals in 1949 did not personally know of any person saved outside the Church i.e without 'faith and baptism'(AG 7).
2) Also no magisterial document before 1949 stated that there were explicit exceptions to the traditional interpretation of the dogma.They only mention the being saved in invincible ignorance etc and this could include the baptism of water.
So there was no magisterial precedent for the cardinals who gave us a new doctrine and rejected the dogma with an inter office letter from the Holy Office in 1949.
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At any rate, Bergoglio's usurpation of the satanic beheading of people by muslims because they were deemed to be Christians is an appalling piece of political usury.
Lionel:
Lionel:
Without the premise from 1949, without the irrational inference, without the 'explicit exceptions, Vatican Council II is saying in Ad Gentes 7 that all Muslims need to formally convert into the Catholic Church to avoid Hell. There are also no exceptions to the dogma in Vatican Council II.
-Lionel Andrades
http://thatthebonesyouhavecrushedmaythrill.blogspot.it/2015/03/up-north.html