Thursday, December 3, 2015

It is the same Vatican Council II but interpreted with two different theologies

Understanding the theological terms.
 1. When we say the Catholic Church teaches that everyone needs to be a formal member of the Church for salvation; every one needs to have his name on the parish  baptism register to go to Heaven, we are referring to FEENEYISM. Feeneyism says everyone needs faith and baptism in the Catholic Church to avoid Hell.All need to be 'card carrying members', all need to formally enter the Church.
2. When we say the Catholic Church teaches that every one needs to be a formal member of the Church for salvation
except for those persons saved without the baptism of water but with the baptism of desire or blood or in invincible ignorance, we are referring to CUSHINGISM.Cushingism says every one does not need to be a formal member of the Church in the present times for salvation. There are exceptions.
 These are the two main theologies in the Church. You are either a Feeneyite or a Cushingite. I am a Feeneyite.
If you are a Feeneyite then Vatican Council II is not a break with the past.It does not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Syllabus of Errors. If you are a Cushingite then Vatican Council II is a rupture with Church-Tradition.
Related imageRelated imageTraditionalists Bishop Bernard Fellay, the Superior General of the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) and Fr. Pierpauolo Petruuci, the SSPX District Superior, Italy are Cushingites.They interpret Vatican Council II with Cushingism. So LG 16, LG 8, UR 3 etc are explicit for them. They infer that these cases are explicit exceptions to the dogma EENS.They are a break with Tradition.So they reject Vatican Council II.
Liberal cardinals Walter Kasper and Kurt Koch are Cushingities too. They interpret LG 16 etc as being explicit.So it becomes an explicit exception to all needing to formally enter the Church. They reject the traditional exclusivist ecclesiology. They welcome Vatican Council as a break with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
I am a Feeneyite. I interpret Vatican Council II with Feeneyism. So LG 16 etc does not refer to objective cases in the present times for me.LG 16 etc does not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.LG 16, LG 8 etc are not even relevant to the dogma, since they are invisble cases. Hypothetical cases cannot be defacto, objective exceptions today, to all needing to convert today in Goa, India or Rome, Italy, to avoid Hell. So Vatican Council II (AG 7, LG 14)  is in agreement with the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.I accept both, the dogma and Vatican Council II.I also accept hypothetical and invisible for us baptism of desire and reject so called explicit for us baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance.
So it is the same Vatican Council II interpreted with two different theologies.Feeneyism is traditional. Cushingism is irrational, an innovation, heretical and accepted by the contemporary magisterium.


St.Francis Xavier whose feast day we celebrate today was a Feeneyite. For him all non Catholics needed to convert into the Church for salvation.He did not know of any exception.-Lionel Andrades

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