JUNE 12, 2017
Claudio Circelli says the Franciscans of the Immaculate have always been obedient to the Pope and the Church (see video).The issue was Vatican Council II according to the late Commissar Fidenzio Volpio. The issue was crypto Lefebvrists, schismatics.The Franiscans of the Immaculate did not accept Vatican Council II (Cushingism) and no one told them about Vatican Council II (Feeneyite).
Claudio Circelli does not know about Vatican Council II( Feeneyite) as an option.As a lay Catholic he needs to affirm Vatican Council II( Feeneyite) which is in harmony with extra ecclesiam nulla salus ( Feeneyite).So the issue should no more be accepting Vatican Council II for the Franciscans of the Immaculate. The issue really is : when is the Pope, Cardinal Braz de Avez and Commissar Sabino Ardito endorse Vatican Council II( Feeneyite)?
When will Fr.Stefano Mannelli and Fr. Gabrielle Pelletieri endorse Vatican Council II in public ?
When will the Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate make an announcement on this?
When will the Comitato Dell'Immacolata issue a statement on this issue?
Fabrizio Verduchi in defending the Franciscans of the Immaculate says
obedience to the pope is fundamental for all of them.He does not realize that
the pope considers Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) as being triumphalistic, rigid
and 'ideology.' His position is doctrinally heretical.
He wants all religious communities and all Catholic lay people to accept Vatican
He is not even going to explain to them the difference between the two
interpretations..He is going to pretend that there can be only one
interpretation of Vatican Council and it is the irrational and non traditional one.
Every one has to accept it since it is approved by the enemies of the Church.It is
approved by the Left and the Jewish Left rabbis overseeing
the Catholic Church in the present times.
I had mentioned all this in 2014 when the Comitato dell Immacolato had their day
of prayer for the Franciscans I had mentioned this years earlier also for the SSPX too
when they called or Rosary Crusades.
Perhaps all those prayers has resulted in an insight, a small breakthrough
in the mind of Bishop Bernard Fellay.He recently said ' The dogma “Outside
the Church there is no salvation” has been changed surreptitiously by confused
Now the lay supporters have to understand that Vatican Council II has also
been changed surreptitiously by confused ideas and the original Vatican
Council II is traditionalist.It is only with an unknown and confused irrationality that Vatican Council II becomes a rupture with Tradition.
This was not known to Bishop Bernard Fellay or Fr. Stefano Mannelli.It was
not known to Roberto dei Mattei or the Italian apologist Corrado Gnerre.It was not known to Fr. Serafino Lanzetta or Fr.Settimo Manelli.
The Comitato dell Immacolata must appeal to all Catholics for justice and
not only to the Vatican.They must appeal to the Polish government and contact thePolish Embassy.2 Ask the Polish President and Prime Minister to tell the Vatican to affirm Vatican Council II(Feeneyite) first and then expect the Franciscans of the Immaculate to follow.
The Franciscans Sisters of the Immaculate have announced clearly in public that they accept Vatican Council II but they refuse to interpret it with Rahnerian theology.They do not interpret it like the leftist newspapers in Italy.
So they are saying, like me, that we reject Vatican Council II (Cushingism).
However they are not asking the Vatican and the Polish Prime Minister and
President to affirm Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) like me.
I repeat they are not asking the Vatican and the Polish Prime Minister and
President to affirm Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite).
The Comitato dell Imacolata is not asking the traditionalists Chris Ferrara,Rorate Caeili and others to also affirm Vatican Council II( Feeneyite).In this way they remove the Council as an obstacle in the reconciliation of the Franciscans and the SSPX.
The Polish Parliament must note that Cardinal Braz de Avez and the Commissioner of the Franciscans of the Immaculate(F.I) are forcing this religious community to affirm false doctrine.The same false doctrine is being taught to school children and youth in Poland , during Catechism classes.3
FORCED TO SAY THERE ARE PRACTICAL EXCEPTIONS TO EENS IN VATICAN COUNCIL
1.The Franciscans of the Immaculate, priests and religious sisters, are being forced
to affirm Vatican Council II in general as having 'practical exceptions' to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).
FORCED TO SAY THAT INVISIBLE BAPTISM OF DESIRE IS A VISIBLE EXCEPTION TO ALL NEEDING TO BE MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH FOR SALVATION
2.They are being forced to interpret the dogma EENS, with invisible for us baptism
of desire being a visible exception to all needing to be members of the Church
FORCED TO SAY THAT LG16, LG8, UR 3, NA2 ETC SPECIFICALLY REFER TO PHYSICALLY KNOWN CASES IN THE PRESENT TIMES
3.They are being forced to claim that Lumen Gentium 16( invincible ignorance/good conscience) ,Nostra Aetate 2(good and holy things in other religions),Lumen Gentium 8 ( elements of sanctification and truth in other religions),Unitatitis Redintigratio 3(imperfect communion with the Church),
Gaudium et Specs 22( all men of goodwill in whose hearts grace works in an unseen way),Ad Gentes 11( seeds of the Word)etc specifically refer to physically known cases in the present times.They are interpreted as salvation outside the Church, salvation without the baptism of water which are known cases in the present times.This is irrational and not Catholic.
All this irrationality has to be taught by the Franciscans of the Immaculate even when they are in Poland.
This is not the doctrine of the Polish saints or the magisterium over the centuries.
MOTION IN PARLIAMENT NEEDED CALLING FOR RATIONAL AND TRADITIONAL CATHOLIC DOCTRINE WHICH IS NON IDEOLOGICAL
The Polish President and Prime Minister could pass a motion in Parliament in
support of the Franciscans of the Immaculate in their efforts to reject irrational Rahnerian theology in the intepretation of Vatican Council II and the dogma EENS for which they are being persecuted by the magisterium of the Church who want them to compromise to have their situation regularised.
This is a political and ideological issue(Leftist) and so it is within the competence of the Polish Parliament to review it.
APRIL 28, 2017
Bishop Fellay does not realize that he is confused between Feeneyism and Cushingism
POLISH PARLIAMENT STOP THE FRANCISCANS OF THE IMMACULATE FROM BEING FORCED TO ACCEPT IRRATIONAL DOCTRINE
Polish Parliament stop the Franciscans of the Immaculate from being forced to accept irrational doctrine