It is an irrationality which forms the lex orandi lex credendi of Catholics during Holy Mass in all Rites

That outside the Church there is no known salvation  should be the traditional theology of the Traditional Latin Mass for FIUV (Una Voce) Latin Mass Societies and Dr.Joseph Shaw -but it isn't.
Instead for all them it is outside the Church there is known salvation,possibilities are actual known cases in the present times,invisible people are visible and so unknown cases of the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) are known exceptions to Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) in 2017.
It is with this irrationality Catholics attend Holy Mass in all Rites and it is part of their  lex orandi lex credendi.There is no correction from Joseph Shaw and the Una Voce(FIUV).No position paper on this subject inspite of so many reports on the Internet.
Vatican Council II is interpreted with the irrational, invisible- people -are -visible premise even though there is a rational choice for Una Voce.The choice would not be politically correct and so Joseph Shaw allows Catholics to remain in their ignorance, with heretical and new doctrines to choose from.He supports the Mass in the Extraordinary Form to be offered with the New Ecclesiology based on invisible cases of BOD,BOB and I.I being visible exceptions to the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Catholic Church which accompanied the Latin and Greek Mass.
A tutor( professor) of philosophy at leftist Oxford University,U.K he cannot affirm Feeneyite EENS( without the irrational premise),nor Feeneyite Vatican Council II( without the irrational premise).It would be opposed by the university and the laws in England(Ofsted).So Una Voce and the Latin Mass Societies allow Catholics to remain in ignorance.An irrationality in philosophy and theology is part of the  lex orandi lex credendi 

So the TLM today is not the same as the Latin Mass of the past.The ecclesiology of Joseph Shaw's Latin Mass and that of the one offered in the U.K and the USA is the same as the ecclesiology of the Novus Ordo Mass.Instead there can be a Novus Ordo Mass in which for the priest and community has an  ecclesiology which is exclusivist and pro Vatican Council II( Feeneyite-premise free) and EENS ( Feeneyite-premise free) unlike the Tridentine Rite Mass in general today.

POSITION PAPER

Una Voce could make an announcement.This would be the  first step, to getting back to the old ecclesiology of the Church during the Tridentine Rite Mass.The simply announcement would be that invisible for us baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance are not visible exceptions to EENS, as it was known to the missionaries in the 16th century during the Latin Mass.There are no known cases of the baptism of desire in 2017. Shaw, a professor of philosophy is aware that this is a violation of the Principle of Non Contradiction. Invisible people cannot be visible at the same time.Then these 'visible' people cannot be put forward as examples of salvation outside the Church.They cannot be objective exceptions to Feeneyite EENS.So in this way there is no obligation to affirm Feeneyite during Holy Mass for Una Voce.

FIUV could affirm the obvious : there are no visible cases of BOD, BOB and I.I in our reality.-Lionel Andrades

 

 

November 30, 2017

With this irrational theology, the new theology of the two popes, there is lex orandi and lex credendi among the traditionalists and liberals

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/11/with-this-irrational-theology-new.html