Ask traditionalist Catholics if the baptism of desire(BOD) refers to invisible people in our reality and they will not answer. They simply will not answer.
You ask them if we can see or meet a BOD case on earth and months go by and they will not answer.
Yesterday after over a year the same question to a prominent Catholic speaker was not answered.Today he has e-mailed me for a clarification.
He knows the answer of course.
It's common knowledge that BOD refers to only hypothetical cases.
He can admit that the baptism of desire refers to only a theoretical case. We humans cannot see someone invisible. BOD cases are known only to God.So if he answers 'yesà, he would have to admit that the Church made a mistake and so did he.Or, someone faked it in some way to get rid of the dogma EENS. If he admits that BOD is invisible for us human beings in 2017 and also in 1965 or 1949, then it was also invisible at the time of St. Emerentiana or St. Victor. No one could have seen them saved with the baptism of desire or baptism of blood. It would also mean that Mystici Corporis and other magisterial documents which mention the baptism of desire)BOD), the baptism of blood(BOB and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) are referring to non visible people.So BOD, BOB and I.I could never have been an exception to Feeneyite EENS. Someone made a mistake!
It's common knowledge that BOD refers to only hypothetical cases.
He can admit that the baptism of desire refers to only a theoretical case. We humans cannot see someone invisible. BOD cases are known only to God.So if he answers 'yesà, he would have to admit that the Church made a mistake and so did he.Or, someone faked it in some way to get rid of the dogma EENS. If he admits that BOD is invisible for us human beings in 2017 and also in 1965 or 1949, then it was also invisible at the time of St. Emerentiana or St. Victor. No one could have seen them saved with the baptism of desire or baptism of blood. It would also mean that Mystici Corporis and other magisterial documents which mention the baptism of desire)BOD), the baptism of blood(BOB and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) are referring to non visible people.So BOD, BOB and I.I could never have been an exception to Feeneyite EENS. Someone made a mistake!
For the SSPX and the SBC the BOD refers to visible and known people and from this position they will argue for and against BOD.
They do not realize that the magisterium made a mistake also in Vatican Council II to assume BOD, BOB and I.I were exceptions or relevant to traditional EENS.
-Lionel Andrades
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