Saturday, May 5, 2018

The truth has to be proclaimed by Roberto de Mattei for a rebirth of the Church during his lifetime

From Rome conference to explore ‘old and new Modernism’ at root of today’s Church crisis

ROME, May 4, 2018 (LifeSiteNews
Diane Montagna
OME, May 4, 2018 (LifeSiteNews) — On June 23, 2018, an international group of theologians, philosophers, historians and other scholars will gather in Rome for a one-day conference dedicated to exploring the roots of the current crisis in the Church. 
The international symposium, titled “Old and New Modernism: the roots of the Church’s crisis,” is being organized by the promoters of the 2017 “Filial Correction,” which charged Pope Francis with permitting the spread of seven heresies, at least by omission. Submitted to the Pope on August 11, 2017, the Correctio filialis was signed by 250 clergy and lay scholars from prestigious academic institutions around the world...
LifeSiteNews spoke with the prime mover behind the conference, Professor Roberto de Mattei, about the event, the issues it will explore, and what its organizers seek to to achieve.
Roberto de Mattei is an Italian historian and president of the Lepanto Foundation. He has taught at various universities and has served as vice-president of the National Research Council, Italy’s leading scientific institution. De Mattei was one of the principal promoters of the Correctio filialis submitted to Pope Francis in 2017. 
Lionel : The promoters of the Correctio Filialis have been interpreting Vatican Council II and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) irrationally, heretically and magisterially.They do not deny this nor respond to reports.Yet they taken exception when Pope Francis does not answer them.
Here are a few reports on line.

 DECEMBER 15, 2017
DECEMBER 15, 2017

  • The traditionalists in general have made an error.They have made a major error in theology and doctrine

DECEMBER 18, 2017

LifeSite: Professor de Mattei, what is the aim and goal of the conference being held in Rome on June 23?  
De Mattei: The June 23rd study day is meant to contribute to a better understanding of the nature of the crisis in the Church and, on the basis of this analysis, to identify the most effective remedies to overcome it.
Lionel: There will be a study in which every one will interpret Vatican Council II with the new theology instead of without it, with Cushingite theology instead of Feeneyite theology, with the irrational and false premise instead of without it.
 The pontificate of Pope Francis has brought this crisis to light in a dramatic way. But the process of the self-demolition of the Church had already been denounced by Paul VI in 1968, after the opposition to Humanae Vitae. Today the heirs of that opposition occupy the highest positions in the Church.
Lionel: The new theology and irrational philosophy came in a big way into the Church at Boston, in the Fr. Leonard Feeney case in 1949. It was then picked up at Vatican Council II. It is magisterial today.Roberto de Mattei does seem aware of it still.

 The authors of the Correctio filialis identified in that document a series of errors and heresies propagated by Pope Francis.
Lionel: Yes, with reference to moral theology and the receiving of the Eucharist.None of them mentioned salvation theology. Since they make the same error as the present two popes. 
 But none of the authors, I believe, thinks that Pope Francis is the only one responsible for the situation of doctrinal and pastoral confusion in which the Church is immersed today. Let us imagine that Pope Francis, for whatever reason, leaves the scene overnight and a new Pontiff is elected. Would everything get back in order? No, of course not.
Lionel: Yes, of course yes! It's unimaginable for Roberto dei Mattei who for most of his life has been interpreting Vatican Council II and EENS with a false premise and has also written books with this error. Would everything get back in order?  Presently the ship of the Church has tilted to the left once Church documents, magisterial documents  are interpreted without the baptism of desire etc referring to visible instead of invisible people, the ship will right itself.
 The crisis has a synchronic dimension, which is its spread throughout the whole body of the Church, from top to bottom, including entire episcopal conferences. But it also has a diachronic dimension, which makes it a process over time. Pope Francis is the historical product of this process.
Lionel: Yes.However this is the effect of the irrationality.It is the conclusion, the result. Roberto dei Mattei , the SSPX and the present Magisterium are not aware of the irrationality, the precise false premise, which they use to interpret the documents of the Church to get this conclusion, this doctrinal crisis.
Why has the conference been titled ‘Old and New Modernism: the roots of the Church’s crisis’?       
The term modernism was coined by Saint Pius X to define a whole set of theological, philosophical, and exegetical errors that arose during the pontificate of his predecessor Leo XIII. In 1907, Pius X condemned modernism with the encyclical Pascendi and the decreee Lamentabili. Following this condemnation and the disciplinary measures that followed, modernism seemed to disappear, but it re-emerged in the 1930s and penetrated every sphere of the Church, especially after the death of Pius XII. 
Lionel: Yes during the pontificate of Pope Pius XII  the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston considered invisible cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance as being visible exceptions to the dogma EENS. This was a rupture between faith and reason and was a rupture in logic. The error became the basis of the New Theology .Even Archbishop Lefebvre could only interpret EENS and Vatican Council II with this irrational reasoning.
Modernism was influenced by liberal Protestantism and was a synthesis of ancient errors such as Gnosticism, Pelagianism and Arianism. Neo-modernism, in a particular way, adopts old modernism’s primacy of praxis, and has become a philosophy of life and pastoral action, even before being a doctrinal school.  
Lionel: The New Modernism is affirmed by Roberto Mattei and the media he overlooks.None of them will affirm the strict interpretation of the dogma EENS like the missionaries in the 16th century.Since unlike the Jesuits of the Middle Ages  they consider invisible and unknown cases of BOD, BOB and I.I as being visible and known examples of salvation outside the Church.
If they did not use the New Theology to interpret Vatican Council II and EENS then there would be no doctrinal confusion. With the present doctrinal confusion they are not criticized by the Jewish Left and not threatened with  leftist laws.
This is a comfortable, though heretical situation, Mattei and the others find expedient.
It was like Pope Benedict in March 2016 saying that EENS was no more like it was for the missionaries in the 16th century.Since there was a development with Vatican Council II. Pope Benedict had a choice. He could have announced that EENS today is the same as it was for the missionaries in the 16th century and Vatican Council II is not a rupture with the past ecclesiology and understanding of EENS. Since references to hypothetical cases could not be relevant or exceptions to EENS.He did not say it. Instead to please the Left he maintained the doctrinal confusion.It is the same with Roberto dei Mattei and the editors at Correspondenza Romana, Radici Cristiane,, Riscossa Cristiana etc.
What questions will the conference explore? 
The speakers will address the epistemological, theological and philosophical roots of the religious crisis of our time.
Lionel: They do not know what is the precise cause of these errors.This will be another wasted conference like the one last year(Voice of the Family).It was the same with the recent one organised by the Friends of Cardinal Cafarra.
APRIL 4, 2018
There will be a false Profession of Faith at the Conference this Saturday in Rome
We will speak about modernism, nouvelle théologie, the Second Vatican Council and its consequences and, of course, the pontificate of Pope Francis, but without concentrating on this last point. 
Lionel: They will speak about what we all know.They will not speak about how Vatican Council II can be traditional without their false philosophy and theology.Neither will they say that they choose to interpret Vatican Council II in harmony with the exclusivist ecclesiology of the Church since the Magisterium made an objective mistake in the Fr. Leonard Feeney case and then repeated it at Vatican Council II.
They will not speak about how the nouvelle thèologie is caused by confusing what is invisible as being visible, unknown as being known, hypothetical as being objective in the present time.
The international symposium will also present an interesting opportunity to discuss the theological and canonical hypothesis of a heretical Pope.  
Lionel: The signatories of the Correctio Filialis are in heresy and they do not deny it. They interpret Vatican Council II as rupture with Tradition when there is a rational and traditional choice. It is the same with the two popes.
It reminds me of Dr.Joseph Shaw promoting the Traditional Latin Mass with the New Ecclesiology and New Theology which pleases Ecclesia Dei and the two popes. So the Latin Mass is a rupture with that of the Mass in the 16th century. Shaw will interpret  Vatican Council II like the liberal Catholic professor Gavin D'Costa in England (both use the false premise and are liberals) and he will also attend the Traditional Latin Mass .On EENS and Vatican Council II he has the same position as Pope Francis and it is not a problem for him. He was the spokesman of the Correctio Fidelis and refused to respond to my reports.Of course he  was not going to say that he and the rest of the signatories of the Correctio Fidelis affirm Feeneyite EENS and neither was he going to say that I was wrong in doing so and being in harmony with the popes and saints of the past.He chose to be in harmony with the present Magisterium and in schism with the past popes and at the same time promote his version of the Latin Mass.
But it is clear that it’s impossible to exhaust such vast and complex issues in one day. We will therefore limit ourselves to offering some ideas, in the hope that other scholars will study them more deeply, and above all that bishops and cardinals will take them into account.
Lionel: They probably said the same at the conferences last year.
Will any cardinals or bishops be addressing or attending the conference?
We would be delighted to have the presence of a cardinal or bishop at the conference, but it is not an ecclesiastical initiative. I believe that it’s necessary to distinguish the role of pastors, who are to teach and guide the disoriented flock, from that of theologians and philosophers, who are tasked with providing those who govern the Church with the necessary elements to better carry out their pastoral duty.
Lionel: The cardinals and bishops will be churning out the same nouvelle théologie e.g Bishop Athanasius Schneider, Cardinal Raymond Burke etc.
Who are the featured speakers?
On this point, I should exercise some discretion until the program is finalized. What I can tell you is that scholars of different nationalities will be participating who teach, or have taught, in public and private, civil and ecclesiastical institutions in Italy and abroad. Most, but not all of them, are signatories of the Filial Correction.
Lionel : Quite a few of them have been repeating the same nonsense, as they have done over the years, even after being informed.Last year there was the Voice of the Family Conference where about the same people said the same safe thing.
It is politically correct with the Left.So there are  no threats to personal interests.Traditionalists do not feel the necessity to affirm the Faith on exclusive salvation in the Church since their jobs and other responsibilities are a priority. However they would expect Pope Francis not to given to the pressure like them.
In June there will be another polite conference and an opportunity for the same people to meet again, while generally not saying anything.Definitely not speaking the truth on exclusive salvation in the Church,which would hit them financially.
It is the same in  Rome with the priests who offer the Latin Mass and Mass in the vernacular.

What do you hope to achieve? 
First and foremost, we want to do our duty, which is not to remain silent, but to witness to the Church’s Faith and to denounce the errors opposed to it, as well as identifying those who are responsible for them.
Lionel: When I have said that BOD, BOB and I.I are not exceptions to EENS they have remained silent.
When I have said that LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2,GS 22 etc are not exceptions to EENS, they have remained silent.
When on March 1, 2018 Cardinal Ladaria said that Lumen Gentium 8 was an exception to EENS they all remained silent.
When in March 2016 Pope Benedict said that EENS was no more like it was for the missionaries in the 16th century no one said that it still was the same and the pope made a mistake.
 We are certainly not the ones who will save the Church. But without the militant commitment of each individual, according to his own role and capacities, the intervention of Divine Grace, which is the only means to resolve the situation, will not occur. Our study day follows the conferences, appeals, declarations, initiatives, each of which has contributed to a climate of renewed fidelity to the Church and of firm opposition to the process of self-dissolution that is attacking it. The Correctio filialis and the conference on 23 June are an expression of the vitality of the Mystical Body of Christ, and they nourish our supernatural hope in a future rebirth of the Church.
Lionel: The truth has to be proclaimed for a rebirth of the Church during his lifetime. -Lionel Andrades
APRIL 25, 2018

APRIL 12, 2018

Like the liberals Roberto dei Mattei uses an irrational premise to interpret the baptism of desire etc. So there is a new version of EENS
APRIL 12, 2018
Roberto dei Mattei is politically correct like the two popes and in heresy
 APRIL 11, 2018
Roberto dei Mattei still cannot state that Lumen Gentium does not contradict the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).Neither will he affirm the dogma EENS according to the missionaries and Magisterium of the 16th century
MARCH 15, 2018
I am waiting for Cardinal Burke, Bishop Schneider, Robero dei Mattei and Chris Ferrara to affirm Vatican Council II and the strict interpretation of EENS
DECEMBER 27, 2017

Brunero Gherardino had it wrong and Roberto dei Mattei based his writings upon the Monsignor's irrational theology

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