Tuesday, June 5, 2018

Michael Voris hides the truth about Catholic salvation on the CMTV website(FAQ) : Peter and Michael Dimond who are honest are criticized


The Church Militant TV (CMTV) gives us an indication of its position on Catholic doctrine on the home page of their website in the section FAQ( Frequently Answered Questions).But there is no entry on the important subject of Salvation.1

BOD, BOB AND I.I INVISIBLE FOR CMTV AND LIBERALS
I e-mailed them about a week back. I asked if the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance refer to hypothetical cases or non Catholics personally known in 2018 who are saved or will be saved outside the Catholic Church.They have not replied.
They have however clarified their position on the frequently asked questions coming from the Left,asking  if CMTV are sedevacantists or traditionalists like the SSPX.
CMTV's FAQ on Sedevacantism states

Most Holy Family Monastery, and other sedevacantist sites, would probably judge Church Militant productions to be "spiritual pornography" for the same reasons we use to warn others about them. The difference is that we are in communion with the visible Church and they are not. Yes, they reject that Church as false. 2

MHFM AFFIRM EENS ON THEIR WEBSITE
But the Most Holy Family Monastery are frank and honest on salvation.Their position is up front.They know their theology on extra ecclesiam nulla salus, Latin is their strong point and they know Church history.
Why cannot CMTV cite the text of the dogma EENS as do sedevacantists Peter and Michael Dimond ?
Even Mother Angelica placed the quotations from popes and saints on EENS, on the EWTN website.They are still there on Wikipedia.3
Michael Voris place the same list on the CMTV website.When the Left complains he can affirm EENS and also the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I), which must be hypothetical for him. So he does not have to choose between EENS and BOD, BOB and I.I.
If BOD, BOB and I.I referred to known and visible people then he would have to choose. 
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VATICAN COUNCIL II DOES NOT CONTRADICT EENS (FEENEYITE) FAQ MUST STATE
Similarly LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc are only hypothetical. Michael Voris could inform those who ask.They do not contradict EENS as it was known to the popes and saints.This must be stated on the FAQ.





CMTV STAFF CANNOT TELL A LIE
This is  a fact in life and not a personal opinion.
When the Chancery in Detroit tells CMTV  that LG 8 etc are exceptions to traditional EENS,then CMTV must clarify that hypothetical cases cannot be objective exceptions to EENS in 2018. So there are no explicit examples of salvation outside the Catholic Church in the present times.Tell the Archdiocese that CMTV staff, in good conscience, cannot interpret hypothetical cases as being objective examples of salvation outside the Church in the present times.

FAQ MUST STATE THAT CMTV INTERPRETS CHURCH DOCUMENTS WITH FEENEYISM 
So CMTV would not be denying EENS,nor BOD,BOB and I.I.
The FAQ must say that CMTV affirms EENS( Feeneyite), BOD,BOB and I.I (Feeneyite) and Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite). They affirm all magisterial documents.
They would have to reject the second part of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 which assumed hypothetical cases of BOD, BOB and I.I were objective exceptions to Feeneyite EENS. The Holy Office in 1949 made a mistake. Invisible people cannot be practical exceptions to EENS.

LIST OF POPES STATEMENTS ON EENS NOT THERE ON CMTV WEBSITE
They can also refuse to remove the list of popes and saints on EENS as Mother Angelica was forced to do.
However first they have to place that list on the CMTV website.
They would be saying, theologically, that Jews, Muslims and other non Christians and Protestants and Orthodox Christians and other Christians, are outside the Catholic Church.They are oriented to Hell unless they convert into the Church as members, with faith and baptism(AG 7).

CATHOLIC WEBSITES ON APOLOGETICS AVOID THIS ISSUE
Presently Catholic websites on apologetics  are avoiding this issue.The Vatican expects Catholics to interpret Lumen Gentium 8 etc as being exceptions to EENS.In other words, LG 8 refers to objective , seen in the flesh people, in the present times, who are practical exceptions to EENS.

DOCTRINAL CONFUSION IN THE CHURCH AND ALSO ON CMTV WEBSITE
This is the objective mistake being made by the two popes and the Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith,which contributes to the doctrinal confusion in the Church which is also there on the CMTV website.
Michael Voris can help the sedevacantists and tradiitionalists to regularise their position in the Church by affirming EENS and Vatican Council II with Feeneyism. Peter and Michael Dimond presently affirm EENS ( Feeneyite) but their position on BOD, BOB and I.I and Vatican Council II is Cushingite.






SSPX WEBSITE HAS SAME DOCTRINAL POSITION AS LIBERALS While the Society of St.Pius X(SSPX)in its 2012 General Chapter, Doctrinal Statement affirmed EENS and Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) but on their official website their position is EENS (Cushingite) and Vatican Council II (Cushingite).The SSPX theological and doctrinal position on their website is the same as the liberals, including cardinals Kasper and Koch.-Lionel Andrades


1.
https://www.churchmilitant.com/main/generic/faq

2.
https://www.churchmilitant.com/main/generic/faq-sedevacantism-general-response

3.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extra_Ecclesiam_nulla_salus







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