Tuesday, December 11, 2018

For centuries Catholic Tradition, the saints and popes taught that all need to be members of Jesus' Mystical Body, with 'faith and baptism'(Ad Genets 7, Vatican Council II), for salvation. Vatican Council II says 'all' and not just those who know or do not know.

 Comments from the blog The Eponymous Flower

Catholic teaching, even Dogma, cannot decide or define what God has chosen, Lionel. It is the Church that says God has chosen this or that. The Sensus Fidei Fidelium would indicate that God has not in fact decided that non Catholics are doomed to eternal damnation. That is the best sign of what the Holy Spirit is revealing.
EENS is a human creation and has nothing to do with the mind or intention of God.
I suggest you look for another hobby.

Lionel:
Jesus founded only one Church. He identified with the Catholic Church when he asked Saul" why do you persecute me".The Bible tells us that the Church is the Mystical Body of Jesus. Throughout the Gospel of John we are told that for salvation it is necessary to believe in Jesus. Those who believe in Jesus express this new hope and life with the baptism of water(John 3:5). The baptism of water was not given to any body but to those who were in the community, the Early Church, the Early Christians, the Early Catholics.
Before the Ascension Jesus said that the Holy Spirit will be there to guide the Church. This is the Holy Spirit known to the saints like Francis of Assisi, Teresa of Avila, St. Faustina Kowalska who experienced the highest levels of union with God, posible on earth, while remaining in the Catholic Church. They died as sons and daughters of the Church.
This is the Church through which the Holy Spirit tells us how God will judge every one on earth, Catholic and non Catholic.
For centuries Catholic Tradition, the saints and popes taught that all need to be members of Jesus' Mystical Body, with 'faith and baptism'(Ad Genets 7, Vatican Council II), for salvation. Vatican Council II says 'all' and not just those who know or do not know.
This has been the Sensus Fidei in the Church for centuries and we know that there is no new revelation.There is no new Deposit of the Faith.
Vatican Council II today is in accord with the Sensus Fidei on EENS as it was known to the Church over the centuries. A small group of people within the Church cannot change this truth of the Faith by using an irrational premise and inference, to create a rupture with Tradition and then pretend that this is a new revelation in Vatican Council II.Vatican Council II says extra ecclesiam nulla salus. It is Feeneyite,
-Lionel Andrades

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