Repost : At the Vatican-SSPX talks Fr. Davide Paglarani must affirm Church teachings by re-interpreting Vatican Council II rationally and traditionally and asking the Vatican Curia to do the same.

DECEMBER 2, 2018

At the Vatican-SSPX talks Fr. Davide Paglarani must affirm Church teachings by re-interpreting Vatican Council II rationally and traditionally and asking the Vatican Curia to do the same.

At the Vatican-SSPX talks Fr. Davide Pagliarani, Superior General of the SSPX, must affirm Church teachings by re-interpreting Vatican Council II rationally and traditionally and asking the Vatican Curia to do the same.
ECUMENISM OF RETURN

Based on Vatican Council II, he  could affirm an ecumenism of return.Since Ad Gentes 7 says all need to enter the Catholic Church for salvation.

EENS ACCORDING TO THE 16TH CENTURY

Based on Vatican Council II (Ad Gentes 7) he could affirm the strict interpretation of outside the Church there is no salvation. Ad Gentes 7 which says all need faith and baptism for salvation. 

7. This missionary activity derives its reason from the will of God, "who wishes all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, Himself a man, Jesus Christ, who gave Himself as a ransom for all" (1 Tim. 2:45), "neither is there salvation in any other" (Acts 4:12).

Therefore, all must be converted to Him...and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door...

By means of this activity, the Mystical Body of Christ unceasingly gathers and directs its forces toward its own growth (cf. Eph. 4:11-16). The members of the Church are impelled to carry on such missionary activity by reason of the love with which they love God and by which they desire to share with all men the spiritual goods of both its life and the life to come.

Finally, by means of this missionary activity, God is fully glorified, provided that men fully and consciously accept His work of salvation, which He has accomplished in Christ.-Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II

PAST ECCLESIOLOGY SUPPORTED

With the  strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) and Vatican Council II interpreted rationally,he would be supporting the past exclusìvist ecclesiology of the Catholic Church based on Ad Gentes 7.

 LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc refer to hypothetical and invisible cases only. So they do not contradict Ad Gentes 7  and  EENS according to the missionaries and Magisterium of the 16th century.

SOCIAL REIGN OF CHRIST THE KING BASED ON AD GENTES 7

So the priority would be the Social Reign of Christ the King  since outside the Church there is no salvation(AG 7).

NON SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE BASED ON EENS

He would support the non separation of Church and State since every one needs to be a member of the Catholic Church for salvation (AG 7).

TRADITIONAL MISSION DOCTRINE RETURNS

He would support mission programs since Vatican Council II (AG 7) indicates all non Catholics are oriented to Hell unless they enter the Church before death with 'faith and baptism'.Most people die outside the Church and so are in Hell. The Church is saying in Vatican Council II that most people are in Hell. 1

So he would be supporting Tradition by re-interpreting Vatican Council II rationally.

-Lionel Andrades

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DECEMBER 2, 2018

During the Vatican-SSPX Doctrinal Talks the Vatican side will refuse to affirm extra ecclesiam nulla salus according to the Magisterium of the 16th century. The SSPX must cite Ad Gentes 7 which says all need faith and baptism for salvation. All signifies those who know and those who do not know about Jesus and the Church.

During the Vatican-SPX Doctrinal Talks the Vatican side will refuse to affirm extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) according to the Magisterium of the 16th century.

The SSPX side must cite Ad Gentes 7 which says all need faith and baptism for salvation. All signifies those who know and those who do not know about Jesus and the Church.

So Vatican Council II is in harmony with the three Church Councils which defined the dogma EENS.

So the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF) must affirm EENS with the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) not being practical exceptions to EENS.They can be accepted as being  only hypothetical cases.

The Vatican side can confirm that they are only hypothetical cases and that practically we cannot know of any non Catholic saved outside the Church, with BOD, BOB and I.I.

Similarly there are no known cases of a non Catholic saved outside the Church because 'God is not limited to the Sacraments'(CCC 1257).

Nor is there any known non Catholic who is saved or will be saved since the Gospel was not proclaimed to them(LG 14).The norm for salvation is 'faith and baptism'(AG 7, LG 14) and we humans cannot know of any exceptions.

There is only the ordinary way of salvation known to us ( faith and baptism) and no extraordinary way (BOD, BOB andI.I).BOD,BOB and I.I would only be known to God-Lionel Andrades

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