Thursday, February 28, 2019

CDF testing everybody's intelligence

I accept Vatican Council II and I can interpret it in harmony with the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) but if I wanted I could also reject Vatican Council II -since it has an error and the Holy Spirit cannot make an error.In this sense it is not magisterial.
It is based upon the error in Vatican Council II, that the two Secretaries of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF), Archbishops Morandi and Di Noia, are asking Brother Andre Marie MICM, Prior of the St. Benedict Center, New Hampshire, USA  to accept invincible ignorance, as an exception to EENS.
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He correctly will not do so. In his Doctrinal Letter to the CDF he has said that there are no personally known cases of being saved in invincible ignorance and if they happened they would be unknown to us on earth and known only to God.
So how can invisible and unknown people on earth  since 1965 be objective examples of salvation outside the Church ? How can non Catholics who do not exist in our reality and would only be known to God in Heaven, be practical exceptions to EENS?
They cannot.

 Whosoever, therefore, knowing that the Catholic Church was made necessary by Christ, would refuse to enter or to remain in it, could not be saved...-Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II
But we know that invincible ignorance is always hypothetical .So it cannot be an exception to EENS.The Council Fathers made a mistake in LG 14. 
Though even with the mistake( in red)  LG 14 does not contradict EENS.Since it always refers to a hypothetical  case. 
The CDF is still testing everybody's intelligence and insisting that we Catholics consider being saved in invincible ignorance, the baptism of desire and the baptism of blood, with or without the baptism of water, as being exceptions to EENS as it was known to the missionaries and Magisterium of the 16th century.

14. This Sacred Council wishes to turn its attention firstly to the Catholic faithful. Basing itself upon Sacred Scripture and Tradition, it teaches that the Church, now sojourning on earth as an exile, is necessary for salvation. Christ, present to us in His Body, which is the Church, is the one Mediator and the unique way of salvation. In explicit terms He Himself affirmed the necessity of faith and baptism(124) and thereby affirmed also the necessity of the Church, for through baptism as through a door men enter the Church. Whosoever, therefore, knowing that the Catholic Church was made necessary by Christ, would refuse to enter or to remain in it, could not be saved...
Catechumens who, moved by the Holy Spirit, seek with explicit intention to be incorporated into the Church are by that very intention joined with her. With love and solicitude Mother Church already embraces them as her own.-Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II

The passages in red refer to hypothetical cases and are not 1) to personally known people saved outside the Church 2) and physically visible non Catholics saved outside the Church.

The CDF needs to correct their mistake.
-Lionel Andrades

In a prepared statement for the press the former Jesuit(Fr.Leonard Feeney) added: "The conscience difficulty is that the diocese of Boston, under the auspices of Archbishop Cushing, and Boston College, under the auspices of Father John J. McEloney, S.J., both notably ignorant in the field of Catholic theology ... are teaching that there is salvation outside the Catholic Church." - Father Feeney Is Dismissed From Jesuit Order by Rome

 http://www.thecrimson.com/article/1949/10/29/father-feeney-is-dismissed-from-jesuit/


February 12, 2018






Vatican(CDF) and Jesuits review the Fr.Leonard Feeney case : How could invisible cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance be visible exceptions to Feeneyite EENS?: The Magisterium made a mistake

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/02/vatican-and-jesuits-review-frleonard.html

 

November 16, 2011





JESUIT SUPERIOR GENERAL REVIEW THE FR.LEONARD FEENEY CASE : THERE IS NO KNOWN CASE OF A PERSON SAVED WITH THE BAPTISM OF DESIRE WHICH IS VISIBLE 

 http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/11/jesuit-superior-general-review.html

 

February 23, 2019





CDF mistake on invincible ignorance 

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/02/cdf-mistake-on-invincible-ignorance.html

 

 



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