Monday, May 6, 2019

The two popes have made a theological mistake.The evidence is now out

“Heresy,” according to the Catechism of the Catholic Church, is “the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning the same.”
So what evidence do the dissident conservatives offer for the argument that Francis is a heretic?
Not much.-Los Angeles Times

The signatories of the Open Letter to the Bishops were correct to infer from the popes actions his intentions and so accuse him of heresy and sin. Veritatis Splendor of Pope John Paul II tells us that a mortal sin is always a mortal sin and the outward action indicates the subjective intent.
But the Open Letter gave a wide berth to the pope on Vatican Council II. It did not criticize Vatican Council II which is interpreted with a false premise, by Pope Francis. It did not tell him that he could interpret Vatican Council II without the irrationality and there would be no rupture with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS)  and an ecumenism of return.
The Letter mentions the Abu Dhai Statement but the pope defends himself by citing Vatican Council II.It is  interpreted with hypothetical cases being objective examples of salvation outside the Church.So they emerge exceptions to EENS.It is a rupture with EENS as it was interpreted by the missionaries and Magisterium of the 16th century.The result is ecclesiology is changed and there is a new ecumenism with other new doctrines.
To reject the dogma EENS with there being allegedly physically visible cases of the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I), is heresy.EENS has been defined by three Church Councils and Pope Pius XII called it an 'infallible teaching'.The dogma EENS is rejected and the Athanasius Creed which says outside the Church there is no salvation is made obsolete. This is heresy in public. It is formal heresy.
The Nicene Creed, when it states, that we believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins, is changed to a belief in three or more known baptisms, desire, blood and invincible ignorance, which exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church. So this is a new version of the Nicene Creed. It is heresy.
Note: the popes and saints over the centuries mentioned BOD, BOB and I.I but did not state that they referred to personally known people saved outside the Church. So a wrong inference is made by the pope.It is a heretical inference.
 With the interpretation of EENS and the Nicence Creed changed we have heresy.
It also means Vatican Council II is being heretically interpreted when a rational alternative is available. So a rupture with Tradition ( Catechisms and Creeds) is intentionally being created by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and the present two popes.
Here are seven points .They are in response to Jimmy Akins article saying that the signatories of the Open Letter have not mentioned any specific theology and so the pope cannot be accused of formal heresy.

1.So there is a denial of traditional EENS by Pope Francis which is confirmed in public by Pope Benedict.Pope Pius XII called EENS an 'infallible teaching'(Letter of the Holy Office 1949). So this is heresy.
2.Since both popes interpret BOD, BOB and I.I as referring to known people saved outside the Church, they have  rejected the Athanasius Creed which says outside the Church there is no salvation. This is heresy.
3.With seen- in- the- flesh cases of BOD, BOB and I.I(otherwise they cannot be exceptions to EENS) for the present two popes they have changed the meaning of the Nicene Creed to ,'I believe in three or more known baptisms, desire, blood and invincible ignorance... and they exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church'. This is first class heresy.
4.Since BOD, BOB and I.I refer to known people saved outside the Church( otherwise they could not be exceptions to EENS according to the 16th century) the Catechism of Pope Pius X is contradicted when it says that all need to be members of the Catholic Church for salvation.
The Catechisms would also contradict themselves with the use of the pontiff's irrationality.They would be contradicting EENS and the Creeds according to the 16th century. This is heresy.
5.Vatican Council II can be interpreted with hypothetical cases just being hypothetical and not objectively known people saved outside the Church. Then Vatican Council II would not be a rupture with EENS according to the Magisterium of the 16th century.But this is not the interpretation of the two pontiffs. This is heresy. They intentionally interpret Vatican Council II  with a hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition( past ecclesiology, ecumenism of return, Syllabus of Errors, Creeds and Catechism).
6.Dominus Iesus and Redemptoris Missio was written assuming that BOD, BOB and I.I referred to known people saved outside the Church.So there was salvation outside the Church. This is irrational but this is the basis of the New Theology.Possibilities and theoretical cases are assumed to be practical exceptions to EENS in the present times(2019). With the New Theology Dominus  Iesus and Redemptoris Missio do not affirm exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church and so they are a rupture with Tradition( 16th century EENS, past ecclesiology).A heretical theology creates new doctrines.They are heretical.They are  expressed in the new ecumenism( in which Protestants do not need to convert), a new ecclesiology( in which there is salvation outside the church), new mission( in which non Catholics are saved in their religion since there is known salvation outside the Church,possibilities are real people) etc.This is heretical doctrine. 
7. With visible- for- the- pontiff cases of BOD, BOB and I.I and so they have re-interpreted St. Thomas Aquinas who was a Feeneyite. Aquinas affirmed the strict interpretation of the dogma EENS and knew that hypothetical cases of being saved in invincible ignorance and the case of the unknown catechumen, were not objective exceptions to EENS.The pontiffs and the CDF also project St. Augustine. St. Francis of Assisi  and the  other saints who affirmed exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church, as denying it.They deny it with alleged practical exceptions of BOD, BOB and I.I.The saints are interpreted heretically.

So we have heresy in theology and doctrine and it is manifest. 1

I would invite the signatories of the Open Letter to the Bishops  to comment on what I have in 'We have heresy in theology and doctrine and it is manifest'. 1 Or  re-present  it, express it as they understand it. Let us read it on their blogs and view it on their media.Faggioli and Akins demands have been met.We now know the exact theology which creates heresy.We have found the missing link. 2
 Jimmy Akins and Massimo Faggioli will have to admit that the two popes have made a theological mistake.The evidence is shown to them.
The theological mistake has resulted in new doctrines, heretical doctrines which are a rupture with Tradition( Creeds, EENS, Syllabus of Errors, ecumenism of return etc).
-Lionel Andrades
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May 5, 2019


We have heresy in theology and doctrine and it is manifest 

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/05/we-have-heresy-in-theology-and-doctrine.html

 

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May 6, 2019

Jimmy Akins and Massimo Faggioli now need to defend themselves or admit they were wrong and I am correct. They cannot continue to say that there was no theology mentioned, which shows that Pope Francis is in heresy 

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/05/jimmy-akins-and-massimo-faggioli-now.html

 





 https://www.latimes.com/opinion/enterthefray/la-ol-pope-heretic-20190504-story.html

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