For Ann Barnhardt being saved in inviincible ignorance outside the Church(LG 16, CCC 847-848) exists technically only on paper : but not for the present two popes

Since outside the Church there is no known salvation there never ever were any exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS), in the past. It was a mistake  for the Letter of the Holy Office 1949(LOHO) and Vatican Council II  to consider  the baptism of desire (BOD), baptism of blood (BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance (I.I)  as exceptions to all needing faith and baptism for salvation(AG 7). Similarly it was a mistake for the popes, cardinals and bishops to consider LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc as being exceptions to the past ecclesiology and an ecumenism of return. Outside the Church there are no personally known cases of non Catholics saved, for us human beings. So we cannot know of any exception  to an ecumenism of return or the past exclusivist ecclesiology now associated with the Traditional Latin Mass only.

This does not come across in the media's reporting of the Amazon Synod.There is something wrong in general with the media's reporting. No one is pointing out that the cardinals and bishops  interpret  the Council  with Cushingism and not an exclusivist ecclesiology.
Even the four points of COETUS on the Working Paper of the Synod were based only on Christology.
Christology is vague without ecclesiocentrism even the liberals could use it to support the Working Paper.

Vatican Council II really supports exclusive salvation and an ecclesiocentric ecclesiology and this is reported only on the blog Eucharist and Mission(Lionel's blog).

For me Lionel, BOD, BOB and I.I and LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2,GS 22 etc are only hypothetical cases.This is common sense.

Ann Barnhardt has written that being saved in invincible ignorance exists technically only on paper. I agree.

Similarly LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc exists techinically only on paper and so does CCC 847-848(invincible ignorance).But for Cardinal Luiz Ladaria, the Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and the present two popes, LG 8 etc do not exist technically only on paper. They are actual people, non Catholics, saved outside the Church in the present times.Otherwise how could they be put forward as exceptions to the traditional teaching on the Catholic Church having an exclusiveness and superiority in salvation.

So Pope Francis and Cardinal Ladaria must be asked to clarify this doctrinal issue.The German bishops interpret LG 8 etc as not being technically there only on paper.I they are told to interpret LG 8 as being only existing technically on paper will they go into schism?

 Vatican Council II is only Christological for the two papers and it does not suppport an ecclesio centric ecclesiology since LG 8 etc and BOD, BOB and I.I do not technically exist only on paper fpr them.-Lionel Andrades