He has interpreted Vatican Council II and EENS irrationally and so is in a rupture with the past Magisterium. He confuses what is invisible as being visible.He has rejected the Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX on outside the Church there is no salvation, a exclusivist ecclesiology, an ecumenism of return and the necessity for the proclamation of the Social Reign of Christ the King.
He projects BOD, BOB and I.I as exceptions to EENS. This changes the interpretation of the Nicene and Apostles Creed . This is first class heresy.The Nicene Creed for him would be saying 'I believe in three or more known baptisms for the forgiveness of sins and they exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church'. In the Apostles Creed, when it is said 'I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church', for him it would mean, 'I believe in the Holy Spirit which teaches the Church that outside the Church there is known salvation, there is known salvation and so documents which affirm the traditional teaching on outside the Church there is no salvation should be made obsolete.'
If there was no known salvation outside the Church for him he would be affirming Feeneyite EENS. If there were no exceptions to the dogma EENS for him he would be affirming the strict interpretation of EENS according to the 16th century priests at the Traditional Latin Mass.But for him there are exceptions to EENS.
Cardinal Burke was ordained to the priesthood by Pope Paul VI who interpreted Vatican Council II irrationally too, even though there was a rational choice.
The irrational interpretation of the Council was maintained by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger and the 1983 Cod of Canon Law supports the irrationality.
For Cardinal Raymond Burke BOD, BOB and I.I refer to physically visible cases since they are exceptions to EENS for him. Invisible cases cannot be exceptions to EENS. For him there are known non Catholics saved outside the Church.
Only if there are known non Catholics saved outside the Church can there be exceptions to EENS.
But such people will only be known to God.They are not part of our reality. They are not physical bodies in Newton's time and space.
They cannot be exceptions to exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. This was the mistake made also by Pope Paul VI and it was repeated by the popes who followed.-Lionel Andrades
TERMS CLARIFIED
BOD(
Baptism of Desire . Case of the unknown cathechumen who desires the
baptism of water but dies before he receives it and is allegedly saved
and now in Heaven)
BOB (Baptism of Blood. The case of unknown person who is in Heaven as a martyr without the baptism of water)
I.I (Invincible
ignorance: The case of an unknown non Catholics who is in Heaven
without faith and baptism and instead in invincible ignorance.)
LG
8 ( Lumen Gentium 8: The case of the unknown person saved outside the
Church with 'elements of sanctification and truth' or where the true
Church of Christ allegedly subsists.
LG 14 (Lumen Gentium 14: Baptism of Desire . Case of the unknown cathechumen who desires the
baptism of water but dies before he receives it and is allegedly saved
and now in Heaven)
LG
16 ( Lumen Gentium 16: The case of the unknown person saved outside the
Church in invincible ignorance and who is now in Heaven without faith
and the baptism of water)
UR
3 (Unitatitis Redintigratiio 3, Vatican Council II : The case of the
unknown Christian, who is saved in his religions without Catholic faith
or the baptism of water in the Catholic Church and is allegedly known to
someone on earth who has seen him or her in Heaven).
NA
2( Nostra Aetate 2: The case of the unknown non Catholic saved outside
the Catholic Church without faith and baptism. He or she is saved with
good and holy things in other religion or with the a ray of that Truth
which enlightens all mankind.
GS
22 (Gaudium et Specs 22. The case of the unknown non Catholic who is
saved outside the Catholic Church. He or she is saved without faith and
baptism but with goodwill.
With the false premise there are 'objective exceptions' to EENS. There are visible exceptions to the Athanasius Creed, the Nicene Creed is changed, there is a new understanding of the Nicene Creed etc :-
8. Traditional mission based upon exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church is rejected. Since with the false premise, there is salvation outside the Church.
9.Inter faith marriages which are not Sacraments are common held.It is no more adultery. Since the non Catholic spouse could be saved outside the Church it is assumed. A posibility which could only be known to God is assumed to be a practical exception to EENS and a literally known case of salvation outside the Church in a personal case.
10. There is a new heretical ecclesiology at Holy Mass in all the rites and liturgies. The Latin Mass today does not have the same exclusivist ecclesiology of the Tridentine Rite Mass of the missionaries in the 16th century.
FALSE PREMISE DEFINED
Their false premise is:-
1. Invisible people are visible.
2.Unknown case of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance are personally known.
3.The
unknown case of the catechumen who desired the baptism of water but
dies before he received it and is saved, is a personally known person.
4.There is known salvation outside the Catholic Church for us human beings.
5.We can see people in Heaven saved without the baptism of water.
6.We can physically see non Catholics in Heaven and on earth who are saved without 'faith and baptism'(AG 7).
7.There are non Catholics who are dead- men visible and walking who are saved outside the Church.
8.There are known people in invincible ignorance through no fault of their own, who are saved.
9.There are some Anglicans and Protestants whom we know who are going to Heaven even though they are outside the Catholic Church.
10.There are some non Catholics whom we know, who are dead, and now are in Heaven, even though they were not Catholic.
With the false premise there are 'objective exceptions' to EENS. There are visible exceptions to the Athanasius Creed, the Nicene Creed is changed, there is a new understanding of the Nicene Creed etc :-
1. The Athanasius Creed which says outside the Church there is no salvation is contradicted.
2. The Nicene Creed in which we say, 'I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins' over
the centuries referred to only one known baptism, the baptism of
water.The baptism of desire etc cannot be given to someone like the
baptism of water.But now the understanding is ' I believe in three or
more known baptisms for the forgiveness of sins ( desire,blood and
ignorance) and they exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic
Church'.
3. The
Apostles Creed says ' we believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic
Church'. Over the centuries it was understood that the Holy Spirit
guided the Catholic Church and taught that there was no salvation
outside the Church.Now unknown cases of the baptism of desire, baptism
of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance, and LG 8, UR 3, NA2,
GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II, are assumd to be objective examples of
salvation outside the Church.
4.In the past three Church Councils defined the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS)
in the extraordinary Magisterium .It was an 'infallible teaching' for
Pope Pius X( Letter of the Holy Offie 1949).Now it is obsolete with
their being alleged known salvation outside the Church.
5.Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church are interpreted with the false premise so they become a rupture with EENS( Feeneyite), the Syllabus of Errors, Athanasius Creed etc.
5.Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church are interpreted with the false premise so they become a rupture with EENS( Feeneyite), the Syllabus of Errors, Athanasius Creed etc.
6.With
the false premise the Catechism of Pope Pius X contradict itself. It
affirms the strict interpretation of EENS while invincible invincible
ignorance is intepreted as referring to personally known non Catholics
saved outside the Chuch.Invincible ignorance is not seen as a
hypothetical case only.
7.Redemptoris
Missio, Dominus Iesus, Ecclesia in Asia, Balamand Declaration etc were
all written upholding the false premise. They did not support exclusive
salvation in the Catholic Church. So in a subtle way they contradicted
EENS(Feeneyite), the Athanasius Creed etc. They did not support the past
ecclesiology and an ecumenism of return.They are Christological without
the traditional ecclesiocentric ecclesiology. It's Christ without the
necessity of membership in the Catholic Church for salvation.8. Traditional mission based upon exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church is rejected. Since with the false premise, there is salvation outside the Church.
9.Inter faith marriages which are not Sacraments are common held.It is no more adultery. Since the non Catholic spouse could be saved outside the Church it is assumed. A posibility which could only be known to God is assumed to be a practical exception to EENS and a literally known case of salvation outside the Church in a personal case.
10. There is a new heretical ecclesiology at Holy Mass in all the rites and liturgies. The Latin Mass today does not have the same exclusivist ecclesiology of the Tridentine Rite Mass of the missionaries in the 16th century.
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HYPOTHETICAL REFERENCES IN THE LETTER OF THE HOLY OFFICE 1949 TO THE ARCHBISHOP O
OF BOSTON WHICH FOR THEM ARE NOT HYPOTHETICAL.
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January 26, 2018
Hilary White and Massimo Faggioli interpret the Catechism, Vatican Council II and Letter of the Holy Office with hypothetical cases not being hypothetical : so there is a rupture with Tradition (with graphics)
EXAMPLES OF THE HYPOTHETICAL REFERENCES IN THE CATECHISM FOR THEM WHICH ARE NOT HYPOTHETICAL.
1. 'God is not limited to the Sacraments'(CCC 1257)
'2.all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body'(CC(CCC 846).
3. Those 'justified by faith in Baptism are incorporated into Christ; they therefore have a right to be called Christians'(CCC 818).
4. They are 'joined in many ways to the baptized who are honored by the name of Christian, but do not profess the Catholic faith in its entirety or have not preserved unity or communion under the successor of Peter."(CCC 838).
5. 'the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims'(CCC 841).
1. 'God is not limited to the Sacraments'(CCC 1257)
'2.all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body'(CC(CCC 846).
3. Those 'justified by faith in Baptism are incorporated into Christ; they therefore have a right to be called Christians'(CCC 818).
4. They are 'joined in many ways to the baptized who are honored by the name of Christian, but do not profess the Catholic faith in its entirety or have not preserved unity or communion under the successor of Peter."(CCC 838).
5. 'the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims'(CCC 841).
EXAMPLES OF HYPOTHETICAL REFERENCES IN VATICAN COUNCIL II FOR THEM WHICH ARE NOT HYPOTHETICAL.
1. 'elements of sanctification and truth'in other religions(LG 8),
2..'good and holy' things in other religions(NA 2),
3..'a ray of that Truth which enlightens' all men(NA 2),
4.'imperfect communion with the Church(UR 3),
5.' people of good will in other religions'(GS 22),
6.' seeds of the Word'(AG 11),
7.'invincible ignorance'(LG 16),
8.'a good conscience'(LG 16) etc.
2..'good and holy' things in other religions(NA 2),
3..'a ray of that Truth which enlightens' all men(NA 2),
4.'imperfect communion with the Church(UR 3),
5.' people of good will in other religions'(GS 22),
6.' seeds of the Word'(AG 11),
7.'invincible ignorance'(LG 16),
8.'a good conscience'(LG 16) etc.
OF BOSTON WHICH FOR THEM ARE NOT HYPOTHETICAL.
1.Therefore,
no one will be saved who, knowing the Church to have been divinely
established by Christ, nevertheless refuses to submit to the Church or
withholds obedience from the Roman Pontiff, the Vicar of Christ on earth.(We do not know who this person is in particular so it is a hypothetical case.)
2.In
His infinite mercy God has willed that the effects, necessary for one
to be saved, of those helps to salvation which are directed toward man's
final end, not by intrinsic necessity, but only by divine institution,
can also be obtained in certain circumstances when those helps are used
only in desire and longing.(We do not know any one in particular as such so this is a hypothetical case.)
3.Therefore,
that one may obtain eternal salvation, it is not always required that
he be incorporated into the Church actually as a member, but it is
necessary that at least he be united to her by desire and longing.(
If there is any such person he or she would only be known to God. So
this passage is irrelevant to the dogma EENS. It cannot be an
exception.Since it is a reference to an invisible person for us.)
4.However,
this desire need not always be explicit, as it is in catechumens; but
when a person is involved in invincible ignorance God accepts also an
implicit desire, so called because it is included in that good
disposition of soul whereby a person wishes his will to be conformed to
the will of God.(This is a reference to an unknown catechumen)
5.For
in this letter the Sovereign Pontiff clearly distinguishes between
those who are actually incorporated into the Church as members, and
those who are united to the Church only by desire.(
Again we have a theoretical and hypothetical reference. We do not know
who is united to the Church only in desire and will be saved.) -Lionel Andrades
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