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Repost : Bishop's Oath of Fidelity : how does he interpret Vatican Council II ?


NOVEMBER 25, 2019

Bishop's Oath of Fidelity : how does he interpret Vatican Council II ?
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It is simple for a bishop to recite the Oath of Fidelity.However he also must clarify his interpretation of Vatican Council II. How does he  interpret LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II ? Do they refer to  invisible and not visible people in the present times ?.Are they  examples of known people saved outside the Catholic Church? Today all the bishops assume that these hypothetical cases (LG 8 etc) are objective people in 2019. They are exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the past ecclesiology.Since they are exceptions they would have to be known and visible. people. Invisible people cannot be practical exceptions to all needing to enter the Church for salvation.
So with this error the bishop recites the Nicene Creed. Then his Oath of Fidelity really is meaningless. Since he affirms ing heresy and modernism.He interprets Vatican Council II with a false reasoning.

It is the same for a Profession of Faith, of a priest or nun. The will  interpret magisterial documents irrationally.They must not be obedient to a superior, for example, who interprets Vatican Council ii, irrationally.
If LG 8 etc refers to visible people saved outside the Church, there is known salvation outside the Church. So the Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors and Catechisms, which affirm the past ecclesiology become obsolete.The interpretation of the Nicene and Apostles Creed  change.
If LG 8 etc in Vatican Council II refer to hypothetical cases only, then they are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church. They are are not literal exceptions  to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Athanasius Creed, Syllabus of Errors etc.There is no change in our understanding of the Nicene and Apostles Creed .Outside the Church there is no salvation.There is one known baptism for the forgiveness of sins which can be administered repeatedly. There are not three personally known baptisms. We cannot see someone receive the baptism of desire and neither can we give it to someone.The Nicene Creed refers to one known baptism in real life.
I have mentioned in a previous blog post that the Profession of Faith is useless today. The Oath Against Modernism is meaningless.Instead Catholics should be asked how do they interpret Vatican Council II. How do they interpret LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II ? Are they invisible or visible, implicit or explicit, subjective or objective,hypothetical or real, for you ?. This decides it.It decides if we are faithful or modernist, orthodox or unorthodox.It decides if we really are Catholic or heretical.One interpretation is rational and the other irrational.-Lionel Andrades

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