Repost : So we are all in the same Church but the Profession of Faith does not have the same meaning.

JANUARY 7, 2018

So we are all in the same Church but the Profession of Faith does not have the same meaning.

Today on the feast of the Baptism of Jesus at Mass in Italian in the homily the priest did not say that every one needs the baptism of water with faith, in only the Catholic Church for salvation. 

He also said salvation is open to all without also mentioning that salvation is open to all in potential but to receive this salvation all need to be members of the Catholic Church.

Instead he spoke about the baptism of desire and blood as if they are known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS),which he would not mention.

There then was a meaningless Profession of Faith. Since we profess that we believe in the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church, which for me says outside the Church there is no salvation.However for most of the Church and the two popes it says there is known salvation.

For me I believe in the Holy Spirit means that the Holy Spirit teaches the Church to say all need faith and baptism for salvation and there are no known exceptions. For the two popes and all religious communities, it  means the Holy Spirit teaches the Church that all need faith and baptism for salvation(AG 7) except for those saved with the baptism of desire(LG 14), invincible ignorance(LG 16) etc who are saved outside the Church without faith and baptism.This is magisterial theology.

So we are all in the same Church but the Profession of Faith does not have the same meaning.

If I was in this priest's place I would speak about the necessity of the baptism of water in the Catholic Church for salvation and today all non Catholics do not have either the baptism of water at the time of death or do not have Catholic faith( the faith and moral teachings of the Church and the Sacraments).So the majority of people need faith and baptism to avoid Hell and they do not have it at the time of death.

This is such a serious subject but Cardinal Ratzinger had advised every seminarian and priest not to speak about Hell.He also did not want the priests to affirm extra ecclesiam nulla salus.Then he wanted them to always interpret Vatican Council II as a rupture with EENS, when it could be interpreted in harmony with the strict interpretation of the dogma outside the Church there is no salvation.-Lionel Andrades