It's unethical for Ralph Martin and Scott Hahn to not affirm St. Thomas Aquinas on extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) and then present hypothetical cases from Vatican Council II (LG 16 etc) as being visible and practical exceptions to traditional exclusive salvation, which they never affirm clearly. They never say clearly that all non Catholics are oriented to Hell unless they accept Jesus in the Catholic Church.
Instead Ralph Martin, like Charles Curran, says that we cannot judge.Both are liberals.
They could judge, when they meet a non Catholic, if they would affirm the strict interpretation of EENS according to Aquinas and Augustine.
The two saints present the norm for salvation and so we can judge that all non Catholics are oriented to Hell, without faith and baptism, at the time of death.-Lionel Andrades
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