Bishop Robert Barron must halt the publication of a new book(Word on Fire Vatican Council II Collection, Second Volume ) and acknowledge that the Council can be interpreted with the fake or rational premise and that Word on Fire promotes the irrational option

  

Bishop Robert Barron must halt the publication of a new book(Word on Fire Vatican Council II Collection, Second Volume ) and acknowledge  that the Council can be interpreted with the fake  or rational premise and that  Word on Fire promotes  the irrational option. -Lionel Andrades

BAPTISM OF DESIRE, BAPTISM OF BLOOD AND INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE

Fake premise

The Baptism of Desire, Baptism of Blood and Invincible Ignorance refer to physically visible cases in 1949-2021.

Fake inference

They are objective examples of salvation outside the Church.They are examples of known non Catholics saved without Catholic faith and the baptism of water.

Fake conclusion

So they contradict the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).The Athanasius Creed(outside the Church there is no salvation) and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return) were made obsolete.

BAPTISM OF DESIRE, BAPTISM OF BLOOD AND INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE

Rational Premise

The Baptism of Desire, Baptism of Blood and Invincible Ignorance refer to physically invisible cases in 1949-2021

They are only hypothetical and theoretical. They exist only in our mind and are not solid bodies at Newton's level of time, space and matter.

Rational Inference

They are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church for us human beings.They are not examples of known non Catholics saved without Catholic faith and the baptism of water.

Rational Conclusion

They do not contradict EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.They do not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS of St. Thomas Aquinas( saved in invincible ignorance is invisible), St. Augustine and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.

The Letter of the Holy Office(Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) 1949 made an objective mistake.

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VATICAN COUNCIL II

Fake premise

Unitatis Redintigratio 3, Lumen Gentium 14(Baptism of Desire), Lumen Gentium 16 (Invincible ignorance) etc in Vatican Council II refer to physically visible cases in 1965-2021.

Fake inference

They are objective examples of salvation outside the Church.

Fake conclusion

Vatican Council II contradicts the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).The Athanasius Creed(outside the Church there is no salvation) and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return) were made obsolete.

VATICAN COUNCIL II

Rational Premise

 Unitatis Redintigratio 3, Lumen Gentium  14 and Lumen Gentium 16  in Vatican Council II refer to physically invisible cases in 1965-2021.They are only hypothetical and theoretical. They exist only in our mind and are not solid bodies at Newton's level of time, space and matter.

Rational Inference

They are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church for us human beings.

Rational Conclusion

Vatican Council II does not contradict EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.It does not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS of St. Thomas Aquinas( saved in invincible ignorance is invisible), St. Augustine and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.

The Letter of the Holy Office(Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) 1949 made an objective mistake.-Lionel Andrades

Lionel Andrades

Catholic lay man in Rome,

Writer on the discovery of the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.

It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms.There can be two interpretations.

Why should Catholics choose an irrational version which is heretical, non traditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional ?

Blog: Eucharist and Mission

E-mail: lionelandrades10@gmail.com

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APRIL 23, 2021

Bishop Barron can no more criticize traditionalists since when he interprets Vatican Council II without the false premise then he becomes an 'extremist'

 

 Bishop Robert Barron follows Pope Francis' non Magisterial interpretation of Vatican Council II and is giving talks on the Council.

He does not mention that Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano called for the rejection of Vatican Council II interpreted  with the false premise, inference and conclusion. Vatican Council II interpreted  without the false premise is Magisterial. It does not contradict the past Magisterium of the Catholic Church.It is not a rupture with Tradition ( EENS etc).

He calls, Catholics who do not accept Vatican Council II interpreted with the deceptive premise, as 'extremists'.

I attend Holy Mass in Italian. I am a supporter of the lay movements and Medugorje. I attend the Latin Mass when possible but I interpret Vatican Council II  with the rational premise, inference and conclusion. So the ecclesiology of the Church has not changed for me.

Mission is still traditional since all non Catholics are oriented to Hell with no known exceptions for me. It is not only those 'who know'(LG 14) who are oriented to Hell.In general there are no known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS), defined by three Church Councils,  and so all non Catholics need  faith and baptism in the Catholic Church to go to Heaven.

For me inter faith marriages are adultery since the non Catholic spouse is outside the Church and is on the way to Hell.While the Catholic spouse is living in adultery.Both should not receive the Eucharist in this irregular situation.

For me it would be a sin if I did not vote for a political party which supports the Social Reign of Christ the King in all politics ( example Militia Christ, Forza Nuova etc) and instead voted for a secular-Satanic , or liberal-Satanic political party which promotes abortion, homosexual marrages etc. 

So I do not have to go for only the Latin Mass to be considered conservative. I can attend the Novus Ordo Mass and affirm the strict interpretation of EENS in harmony with Vatican Council II.Similarly I do not have to believe only those ' who know' will go to Hell. I can affirm traditional Mission doctrine and still go for Mass in Italian.

I can affirm hypothetical for us baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance along with the strict interpretation of EENS. I do not have to choose. It is not either-or.

Bishop Barron can no more criticize only the traditionalists since when he interprets Vatican Council II without the false premise then he becomes an 'extremist'.-Lionel Andrades

APRIL 22, 2021

Bishop Robert Barron interpreted Vatican Council II with a fake premise and received the 1.5 million Templeton Grant

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/bishop-robert-barron-interpreted.html