Cardinal Koch and Cardinal Semeraro would also say that they belong to the Catholic Church with the Four Marks ( one, holy, Catholic and Apostolic ) while they would interpret the Creeds, the Catechisms and Vatican Council II with a false premise to create a rupture with the Church, with the four marks, for example in the 16th century

 Cardinal Koch and Cardinal Semeraro  would also say that they belong to the Catholic Church  with the Four Marks ( one, holy, Catholic and Apostolic ) while they would interpret the Creeds, the Catechisms and Vatican Council II with a false premise to create a rupture with the Church, with the four marks, for example in the 16th century.

Similarly they would interpret the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance with the false premise, to create a rupture with the interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus, according to the Apostles and the Church Fathers.

So they would be rejecting the Athanasius Creed, like the present two popes and the cardinals, which states outside the Church there is no salvation.This is not Apostolic.

For them outside the Church there is salvation and the baptism of desire etc are examples of this exceptional-salvation outside the Church.So they contradict St. Francis Xavier and the Jesuits of his time.

Today  we have two interpretations of Magisterial documents in the Church with the Four Marks. -Lionel Andrades

he Four Marks of the Church, also known as the Attributes of the Church, is a term describing four distinctive adjectives—"One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic"—of traditional Christian ecclesiology as expressed in the Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed completed at the First Council of Constantinople in AD 381: "[We ...