Saturday, May 1, 2021

The Secretary of the Vatican's Congregation for Divine Worship interprets Vatican Council II( and the Creeds and Catechisms) with the false premise and does not consider it an impediment to offering Holy Mass in Italian

 The Secretary of the Vatican's Congregation for Divine Worship interprets Vatican Council II( and the Creeds and Catechisms) with the false premise and does not consider it an impediment to offering Holy Mass in Italian. -Lionel Andrades

FEBRUARY 23, 2021

Archbishop Arthur Roche, Secretary of the Congregation for Divine Worship, in a talk on the liturgy in 2020 often mentions Vatican Council II but does not state that he is referring to Vatican Council II interpreted with a fake premise which creates a fake rupture with the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Catholic Church which accompanied Holy Mass in Latin and Greek

Archbishop Arthur Roche, Secretary of the Congregation for Divine Worship, in a report on the liturgy often mentions Vatican Council II but does not state that he is referring to Vatican Council II interpreted with a fake premise which creates a fake rupture with the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Catholic Church which accompanied Holy Mass in Latin and Greek. -Lionel Andrades


https://gloria.tv/post/PijtoPN1b9d34VY7vbHVe2fEE

https://gloria.tv/post/HWHsvJEtybf72mQnL6k7E2wKx


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23 FEBRUARY 2021

Archbishop Arthur Roche and the TLM

 

Una Voce Scotland has the details of an attack on the celebration of the Mass of Ages by Arthur Roche, Archbishop Secretary of the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments. The Una Voce article rightly describes the Archbishop's misunderstanding of the Extraordinary form of the Mass and you can read further at Gloria TV News


You can read the document here: 

 The Roman Missal of Saint Paul VI. Roche (courtesy of Una Voce Scotland).  

It is only this week just gone that his boss at the Congregation for Worship, the very able and well respected Cardinal Sarah, has just had his resignation accepted by Pope Francis. I do hope His Grace's views are not the the Congregation will move in the future, now that Cardinal Sarah has gone. Having met the Cardinal and heard him speak, he had a much more positive view of out liturgical Tradition.


NB: I have amended this post, noting that Archbishop Roche's paper was written last year in 2020.

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BAPTISM OF DESIRE, BAPTISM OF BLOOD AND INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE

Fake premise

The Baptism of Desire, Baptism of Blood and Invincible Ignorance refer to physically visible cases in 1949-2021.

Fake inference
They are objective examples of salvation outside the Church.They are examples of known non Catholics saved without Catholic faith and the baptism of water.

Fake conclusion
So they contradict the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).The Athanasius Creed(outside the Church there is no salvation) and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return) were made obsolete.
Pope Pius XII and the Holy Office(CDF) made an objective mistake.

BAPTISM OF DESIRE, BAPTISM OF BLOOD AND INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE

Rational Premise

The Baptism of Desire, Baptism of Blood and Invincible Ignorance refer to physically invisible cases in 1949-2021
They are only hypothetical and theoretical. They exist only in our mind and are not solid bodies at Newton's level of time, space and matter.

Rational Inference
They are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church for us human beings.They are not examples of known non Catholics saved without Catholic faith and the baptism of water.

Rational Conclusion
They do not contradict EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.They do not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS of St. Thomas Aquinas( saved in invincible ignorance is invisible), St. Augustine and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.
The Letter of the Holy Office(Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) 1949 made an objective mistake.
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VATICAN COUNCIL II

Fake premise

Unitatis Redintigratio 3, Lumen Gentium 14(Baptism of Desire), Lumen Gentium 16 (Invincible ignorance) etc in Vatican Council II refer to physically visible cases in 1965-2021.

Fake inference
They are objective examples of salvation outside the Church.

Fake conclusion
Vatican Council II contradicts the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).The Athanasius Creed(outside the Church there is no salvation) and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return) were made obsolete.
Pope Paul VI and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican, made an objective error.

VATICAN COUNCIL II

Rational Premise
 Unitatis Redintigratio 3, Lumen Gentium  14 and Lumen Gentium 16  in Vatican Council II refer to physically invisible cases in 1965-2021.They are only hypothetical and theoretical. They exist only in our mind and are not solid bodies at Newton's level of time, space and matter.

Rational Inference
They are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church for us human beings.

Rational Conclusion
Vatican Council II does not contradict EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.It does not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS of St. Thomas Aquinas( saved in invincible ignorance is invisible), St. Augustine and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.
The Letter of the Holy Office(Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) 1949 made an objective mistake.-L.A

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Lionel Andrades
Catholic lay man in Rome,
Writer on the discovery of the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.
It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms.There can be two interpretations.
Why should Catholics choose an irrational version which is heretical, non traditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional ?
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