NOVEMBER 22, 2021
In my parish at Holy Communion classes they have changed the understanding of the Nicene Creed and First Commandment and our Profession of Faith is different. The Comitato dell Immaculata of Fr. Stefano Manelli F.I oversee the old vacant church and semimary building in the pasrish
In my parish Santa Maria di Nazareth, Casalotti, Boccea, Rome, the Holy Communion classes have begun.The children are taught to confuse being saved in invincible ignorance outside the Catholic Church, as referring to known people , physically visible cases in the present times.In this way they don't have to say that there is exclusive salvation in only the Catholic Church, as it was taught to children during the times of Apostles and Church Fathers, St. Francis of Assisi, St. Catherine of Siena and St.Maximilian Kolbe.The children are taught that there are exceptions and not that every one needs to enter accept Jesus and enter the Catholic Church, with no known exceptions to go to Heaven and avoid Hell.
Even the priests and catechists in the parish are not ready to affirm the Athanasius Creed and it must be the same with the bishop and his Curia.
So the Nicene Creed is changed too with the same false premise with which they reject the Athanasius Creed and extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
So the Profession of Faith at Holy Mass in Italian is different.Since the Nicene Creed has two interpretations, one rational and the other irrational.
There is confusion on the First Commandment, for Catholics.
The Comitato dell Immaculata of Fr. Stefano Manelli F.I, over sees the old vacant church and seminary building in the parish.They are not intervening. -Lionel Andrades
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/11/in-may-parish-at-holy-communion-classes.html
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Vatican Council II is dogmatic
QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS ABOUT THE LIONEL ANDRADES INTERPRETATION OF VATICAN COUNCIL II
1.What's so special about the Lionel Andrades interpretation of Vatican Council II ?
It is the listing of the rational and irrational premise, inference and conclusion. It identifies two different premises with two different conclusions. So the rational premise produces a traditional conclusion and the Vatican Council II is in harmony with Tradition. It has a hermeneutic of continuity with Tradition even though Rahner, Congar, Rarzinger and Cushing were present at the Council in 1965.
Collegiality, ecumenism and religious liberty are no more an issue for the conservatives , when Vatican Council II is traditional. Lumen Gentium 8, Lumen Gentium 14, Lumen Gentium 16 ecc. oin Vatican Council II refer to only physically invisible cases in 1965-2021.
12.Vatican Council II is dogmatic ?
Yes. Pope Paul VI and the liberals call Vatican Council II "pastoral" and not dogmatic. Since they do not want to affirm the rigorous interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). Without their false premise the Council is dogmatic. It supports the rigorous interpretation of EENS.This was EENS according to the missionaries and the Magisterium of the sixteenth century. LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NS 2, GS 22 etc., in the Second Vatican Council, if interpreted rationally, cannot be practical exceptions to EENS. Invisible cases in our reality cannot be objective exceptions to EENS. For example, to get on the bus you have to be present at the bus station. If you are not physically at the bus stop it is not possible to get on the bus.
Another example is, if there is an apple in a box of oranges, the apple is an exception since it is there in the box. If it was not there in that box it would not be an exception. Similarly LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3 etc.,refer only to hypothetical cases. We cannot meet or see anyone saved outside the Church, without faith and the baptism of water. So the Council is not referring to real people, known people in the present times.
Unknown and invisible cases of the baptism of desire (LG 14) and of being saved in invincible ignorance (LG 16) cannot be objective exceptions for EENS, the Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX.There is no conflict.
So when Vatican Council II is interpreted rationally it is dogmatic. -Lionel Andrades
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