If the National Catolic Reporter did not use the Fake Premise to interpret Church Documents Christopher White would be affirming the same strict interpretation of EENS as the St.Benedict Center, Richmond, New Hampshire

Christopher White  in his report at the National Catholic Reporter on the case filed by Fr. Georges de Laire against Michael Voris after the latter visited the St.Benedict Center(SBC), Richmond, New Hampshire, has projected the SBC as being in dissent and schism since they do not use the Fake Premise like Bishop Peter Libasci, Fr.de Laire and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj, to interpret Catholic Magisterial Documents (VC2, EENS etc) and so reject the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) .

If the NCR did not use the Fake Premise to interpret Church Documents Christopher White would be affirming the same strict interpretation of EENS as the SBC.He would also be endorsing Vatican Council II like the SBC. This was not mentioned in his report.

In the Catholic diocese of Manchester, USA, Bishop Peter Libasci and his Curia agree that  officially they use the Fake Premise at First Communion classes, Adult religious formation(RCIA) and religion classes in the diocese schools. Every one has to use the fake premise. In this way there emerges a politically break with the past Magisterium. This is not reported by the NCR and the Union Leader, New Hampshire.

Damien and Simcha Fischer in their media refer to the SBC as 'ultra traditionalists' and 'schismatics'. This is false and it is clarified in the public statement of Doctrinal Beliefs on the SBC website Catholicism.org .

The SBC only reject Vatican Council II interpreted with the Fake Premise. They do not reject Vatican Council II interpreted with the Rational Premise. The rational premise has a  hermeneutic of continuity with Tradition. This was not reported  by Christopher White in the NCR report.

It is Simcha and Damien Fischer ( Union Leader, New Hampshire) and Christopher White and Heidi Schlumpf (NCR) and Bishop Peter Libasci and his Curia, who are in dissent. The Left wants dissent in the Catholic Church with the Fake Premise.

Now in the case with Michael Voris in New Hampshire, Christopher Whiter expects the judge to repeat the same strict irrationality i.e invisible people are visible, invisible cases of being saved with the baptism of desire (LG 14) are physically visible in 2021. So then it would appear as if the SBC and Michael Voris are in dissent. When really it is NCR who will not affirm the strict interpretation of EENS and the rational interpretation of Vatican Council II.

NOTICE FOR ALL RELIGIOUS COMMUNITIES 

Fr. Georges de Laire himself must clarify before the judge that there are no specific cases of physically visible cases of people saved with the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood (BOB) and invincible ignorance(I.I) and without the baptism of water in his imagination.He will also not expect the Paulist Fathers and the Carmelites, in the diocese, for example, to say that there are visible exceptions for EENS.So he would ask all the religious communities in the diocese of Manchester, USA to affirm the strict interpretation of EENS like the SBC.

The judge must be asked to tell Fr. Georges de Laire to no more coerce religious communities with a Decree of Prohibitions based upon their accepting the Fake Premise. He must announce that it is no longer obligatory in New Hampshire for Catholics to use the Fake Premise.

Since all the religious communities agree that there are no objective exceptions for EENS in New Hampshire they can all endorse the same strict interpretation of EENS as the SBC. The CDF Secretaries, Archbishops Morandi and Di Noia, also agree that there are no objective exceptions for the traditional interpretation of EENS by Brother Andre Marie MICM and the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary. This is not mentioned in the NCR report.- Lionel Andrades

-Lionel Andrades

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DECEMBER 17, 2020

The blogger Tancred at The Eponymous Flower interprets Vatican Council II and extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) with the false premise. The Five Points expose the error

 The blogger Tancred at The Eponymous Flower interprets Vatican Council II and extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) with the false premise. The Five Points expose the error. - Lionel Andrades

DECEMBER 14, 2020

Five points that change our interpretation of Vatican Council II and other Magisterial documents

NEW INFORMATION

We  have new information.

1.The hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition depends upon the false premise and not Vatican Council II itself. This must be understood by all. It is  a common mistake.If you refer to the New Theology you also have to refer to the irrational premise.For example when Lumen Gentium 16 refers to a visible case it is a false premise.We know that LG 16 is really always hypothetical and invisible for all at all times.So when LG 16 refers to someone saved outside the Church( a false premise) it is made an objective exception to EENS and exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. But LG 16 is never objective for us human beings.It is objective only for God.

2.Irrespective if you are a conservative or liberal Catholic, if you use the false premise there is a rupture with Tradition. So the hermeneutic of rupture is not created by the liberals.This is  important to nore. It does not depend upon a person's philosophical or theological view. Cardinal Ratzinger interpreted LG 16 as an exception to the strict interpretation of EENS, but so did Bishop Athanasius Schneider and Cardinal Walter Kasper.

3.If you are a liberal Catholic and do not use the false premise to interpret Vatican Council II, you emerge  a conservative or traditionalist Catholic. Since Vatican Council II emerges in harmony with the stict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).It is the false premise which creates the hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition.It decides if Vatican Council II is traditional or non traditional.

4. If you are an SSPX  traditionalist and you do not use the false premise to interpret Vatican Council II, you emerge a Feeneyite and not a Cushingite. Presently the SSPX and other traditionalists interpret Vatican Council II with the false premise and so are Cushingites.

For Fr. Leonard Feeney, extra ecclesiam nulla salus had no exceptions. For Cardinal Richard Cushing and the Jesuits the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and invincible ignorance(I.I) were exceptions to EENS.It was only with the false premise that BOD, BOB and I.I became exceptions to EENS for them.

5. So irrespective of the Rite of the Mass, Latin, Novus Ordo or Byzantine, if you interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise you are Traditional. The Council does not contradict the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX, the Catechism of the Pope Pius X ( 24 Q, 27Q), the dogma EENS according to St. Thomas Aquinas and St. Augustine and the Athanasius Creed.-Lionel Andrades

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/12/five-points-that-change-our.html

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 DECEMBER 17, 2020

According to Archbishop Thomas Gullickson there are no cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance in our reality and so they are not objective exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus. The Amercian Archbishop is not using the false premise

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/12/according-to-archbishop-thomas.html

 DECEMBER 17, 2020

According to Fr. Stefano Visintin osb, the former Rector and Dean of Theology at the University of St. Anselm, Rome, and present Abbot of the Benedictine Monastery of Praglia, Padua, Italy, the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance are not exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was known to St. Benedict

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/12/according-to-fr-stefano-visintin-osb.html

DECEMBER 17, 2020

According to John Martignoni, Catholic apologist at EWTN, the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance, are 'zero cases'. So they cannot be exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) 

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/12/according-to-john-martignoni-catholic.html

 DECEMBER 17, 2020

Pope Benedict would know that there is no 'development of doctrine with Vatican Council II' if the false premise is not used. But he is going along with it

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/12/pope-benedict-would-know-that-there-is.html

DECEMBER 16, 2020

With these Five Points the religious formation of Franciscans, Dominicans, Jesuits, Carmelites, Salesians and other communities change 

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/12/with-these-five-points-religious.html

 DECEMBER 16, 2020

The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican needs to inform Cardinal Braz de Avez and the religious communities that there are two interpretations of Vatican Council II - with and without the false premise,and they should choose the rational option

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/12/the-congregation-for-doctrine-of-faith_90.html

DECEMBER 16, 2020

The Dominicans and Benedictines at Oxford University need to stop churning out theologies created with Pope Benedict's false New Theology and fake premise

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/12/the-dominicans-and-benedictines-at.html

 DECEMBER 16, 2020

The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith must clarify the Five Points for young people with a vocation to the religous life and for Vocation Directors and Novice Masters

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/12/the-congregation-for-doctrine-of-faith_16.html

DECEMBER 16, 2020

The SSPX can now ask Pope Francis to affirm Vatican Council II just as he had asked it of them, for canonical recognition.With the Five Points ask him to affirm the Council with the hermeneutic of continuity with EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/12/the-sspx-can-now-ask-pope-francis-to.html

DECEMBER 16, 2020

Jesuit Pope Francis needs to end the slander of the Jesuit from Boston. Fr.Leonard Feeney was correct and Boston College, the Jesuit Provincial in the USA and Cardinal Richard Cushing made an objective error- supported by Pope Pius XII and his cardinals 

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/12/jesuit-pope-francis-needs-to-end.html

DECEMBER 16, 2020

The Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, at the St.Benedict Centers in New England, USA must not be forced by Cardinal Sean O'Malley, Archbishop of Boston and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican, to re-interpret Vatican Council II and EENS with a false premise.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/12/the-slaves-of-immaculate-heart-of-mary.html

 DECEMBER 16, 2020

Pope Benedict has said that Europe must remember its Christian roots but Europe's Christian roots were Catholic. Peter Seewalds new biography shows that Pope Benedict lost his Catholic Faith and the Catholic theological roots

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/12/pope-benedict-has-said-that-europe-must.html

DECEMBER 16, 2020

Peter Seewalds new biography indicates Pope Benedict used a false premise to reject Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS), change the Nicene Creed, reject the Athanasius Creed, reject the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX, reject the Catechism of Pope Pius X ( 24Q, 27Q) and irrationally reinterpret the Council of Trent and Vatican Council II.So in general the Deposit of the Faith is rejected.De fide teachings which are obligatory to believe in are put aside

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/12/peter-seewalds-new-biography-indicates.html

DECEMBER 13, 2020

If the Lefebvrists continue to interpret Vatican Council II with a false premise, and not without it, the Council will continue to be a break with Tradition and this will not be the fault of Pope Benedict

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/12/if-lefebvrists-continue-to-interpret.html

DECEMBER 15, 2020

Peter Seewald missed out the most important point. Cardinal Ratzinger used a false premise to create a new Theology

 Peter Seewald missed out the most important point. Cardinal Ratzinger used a false premise to create a new Theology. - Lionel Andrades

October 11, 2020 

LifeSiteNews ) – A new authoritative biography of Pope Benedict XVI written by Peter Seewald describes in detail the important role then-Professor Joseph Ratzinger played before and during the Second Vatican Council. His influence helped to bring about a revolutionary change of the Council's direction, tone, and topics.- Maike Hickson, New biography describes great influence of Joseph Ratzinger in the revolutionary upheaval of Vatican II

https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/new-biography-describes-great-influence-of-joseph-ratzinger-in-the-revolutionary-upheaval-of-vatican-ii

With the knowledge of these FIVE POINTS 1 we can undo Cardinal Ratzinger's influence at Vatican Council II, and also when he did not choose to interpret the Council after 1965, in continuity with Tradition. -Lionel Andrades

Five ve points that change our interpretation of Vatican Council II and other Magisterial documents https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/12/five-points-that-change-our.html

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/12/peter-seewald-missed-out-most-important.html

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DECEMBER 14, 2020

With the knowledge of these FIVE POINTS we can undo Cardinal Ratzinger's influence at Vatican Council II and when he did not choose to interpret the Council after 1965, in continuity with Tradition https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/12/with-knowledge-of-these-five-points-we.html

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DECEMBER 16, 2020

Religious formation in the Catholic Church has changed with these Five Points https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/12/religious-formation-in-catholic-church.html

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