Thursday, December 9, 2021

Vatican Council II interpreted with a Rational Premise must be taught at Catholic schools and in the parishes for First Communicants and pontifical universities in Rome, proclaimed in homilies, in Catholic hospitals and the media

 I mentioned in a previous blog post (Dec.8,2021) that I have the legal religious freedom and right to follow and practice my Roman Catholic religion in Rome based upon Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church. I use a Rational Premise, to interpret these two Magisterial Documents and everyone else here unknowingly chooses an irrational premise.

A.So for me LG 8, LG 14 LG 16 etc in Vatican Council II refer to hypothetical cases only in 2021 and so are not exceptions for the Athanasius Creed, 16th century EENS and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX.

B.For the Parish Priests and Rectors  LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 etc refer to non hypothetical, objective cases, visible non Catholics saved outside the Church, without Catholic faith and the baptism of water. So LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 etc are made physically visible and practical exceptions for Feeneyite EENS and the Catechism of the Catholic Church (24Q, 27Q). The Athanasius Creed, Syllabus of Errors and the rest of Tradition are made obsolete by them. This is a political interpretation of Vatican Council II and it is dishonest. The False Premise (hypothetical cases are objective in 2021) is unethical.

First Communicants at the mainstream Catholic churches in Italy must have the same religious freedom as me. They have to be taught that every needs to enter the Catholic Church for salvation and that other religions are not paths to Heaven according to Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church. All need faith and the baptism of water. Without Catholic faith and the baptism of water people go to Hell (CCC 1257,845,846).This is the official teaching of the Catechism of the Catholic Church when Vatican Council II  and other Magisterial Documents are interpreted  rationally. This is the Magisterium of the Church according to Church Documents, Magisterial Documents. This is the Magisterium of Church Documents in harmony with the past Magisterium which all Catholics are obliged to follow, including ecclesiastics.

The children must be taught to interpret Magisterial Documents rationally like me in A above and not irrationally like the parish priests and rectors, like B, above.It should be the same at Catholic schools and educational institutions, parish catechesis and at the pontifical unversities. It is A and not B which must be proclaimed in homilies in the Catholic churches, at Catholic hospitals and in the media and communication.


I have mentioned in a previous blog post ( Dec.7,2021) that when  I say that in Heaven there are only Catholics I am citing Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church interpreted rationally. I am not depending on pre-1930 Church Documents.So this is the present teaching of the Catholic Church according to Magisterial Documents interpreted rationally and not just a personal opinion.


Ad Gentes 7 says all need faith and baptism for salvation while LG  16 (invincible ignorance) and LG 14 ( the baptism of desire) are not exceptions for AG 7 for me, since they refer to hypothetical and invisible cases in 1965-2021. Ad Gentes 7 is also mentioned in the Catechism of the Catholic Church 846 under the title Outside the Church there is No Salvation. The Catechism of the Catholic Church 1257 ( The Necessity of Baptism) also states that the Church knows of no means to eternal beatitude other than the baptism of water. If there are exceptions because 'God is not limited to the Sacraments' ( CCC 1257) then these cases, could only be known to God and so on earth they would not be practical exceptions for us human beings.


So all those who are in Heaven are there with 

Catholic faith and the baptism of water. 

If there are people saved in  invincible ignorance, in Heaven, they would be Catholic. God would have sent a preacher to baptize them as explained St. Thomas Aquinas,who held the strict interpretation of outside the Church there is no salvation. Or, God would have sent them back to earth to be baptized with water as was the experience of St. Francis Xavier and other saints.But the norm for salvation is 'faith and baptism'(AG 7) and not the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance, or Lumen Gentium 8, Unitatitis Redintigratio 3, Gaudium et Specs 22 etc. Vatican Council II ( rational ) and the Catechism of the Catholic Church ( rational) for me is not a rupture with the Athanasius Creed, the Syllabus of Errors with no known exceptions, and extra ecclesiam nulla salus with no known exceptions.

For me in the Catechism of Pope Pius X, 29 Q (invincible ignorance) does not contradict 24Q and 17 Q ( outside the Church there is no salvation).


The Catholic Church officially teaches today in its Magisterial Documents interpreted rationally that in Heaven there are only Catholics, outside the Church there is no salvation and all need the Catholic faith and the baptism of water for salvation (to avoid Hell).This is the teaching guided by the Holy Spirit in Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church. This is not just a private view, someone’s personal opinion.

This may not be the theological political position of the present two popes  and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith however this message is there in the text of the Council and the Catechism of the Catholic Church of Pope John Paul II and Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger When the present two popes interpret these Magisterial Documents with a Fake Premise  then they are not Magisterial but political. It is their private view which is a break with Tradition and the past Magisterium. So it is schismatic and heretical.

It is important for Cardinal Peter Erdo, primate in Hungary, Ambassador Edward Habsburg, at the Hungarian Embassy at the Vatican and Fr. Paul Habsburg L.C  and the Legion of Christ priests and Superior General to affirm the traditional ecclesiocentrism of the Catholic Austro Hungarian Empire.-Lionel Andrades


https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/12/catholics-must-know-that-church-teaches.html

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/12/i-have-legal-religious-freedom-and.html

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/12/the-catholic-church-officially-teaches.html




DECEMBER 6, 2021

Edward Hapsburg at the Hungarian Embassy at the Vatican probably interprets Vatican Council II with the Fake Premise like Cardinal Peter Erdo in Hungary, but his illustrious Habsburg ancestors and the Austro Hungarian Catholic Empire interpreted Magisterial Documents rationally.For them in Heaven there were only Catholics.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/12/edward-hapsburg-at-hungarian-embassy-at.html


DECEMBER 8, 2021



It's good to be a Catholic, once again

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/12/its-good-to-be-catholic-once-again.html





AUGUST 4, 2021

Poland and Hungary need to adopt the Lionel Andrades interpretation of Vatican Council II https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/08/poland-and-hungary-need-to-adopt-lionel.html




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NOVEMBER 30, 2021



When you interpret Vatican Council II with a Rational Premise then as a Catholic you have something to say

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/11/incomplete-when-you-interpret-vatican.html






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