Two interpretations of Vatican Council II

 

If for you LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II refer to exceptions for the Athanasius Creed, the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus then you are saying that LG 8 etc refer to visible and known non Catholics saved outside the Catholic Church.

If for me they are not exceptions for the past exclusivist ecclesiology, then I am saying that they refer to invisible cases only in 1965-2022. They are implicit and subjective.

So for you they explicit and for me implicit and so our conclusions is non traditional (for you) and traditional (for me).-Lionel Andrades

 FEBRUARY 12, 2022

Poland cannot be a Catholic state with Catholic laws since the President and Prime Minister there, like in Italy, are interpreting Vatican Council II with a False and not Rational Premise. This is the political theology of the Left.

 

Poland cannot be a Catholic state with Catholic laws since the President and Prime Minister there, like in Italy, are interpreting Vatican Council II with a False and not Rational Premise. This is the political theology of the Left.

The False Premise in the interpretation of Vatican Council II creates division in theology (old theology rejected with a false premise) and doctrines (there is allegedly known salvation outside the Church). So there is no unity with the Magisterium of the past, on Catholic faith and morals. There are two interpretations of the Creeds, Catechisms, extra ecclesiam nulla salus etc.

But with Vatican Council II ( Rational ) Poland could again affirm the Social Reign of Christ the King in all politics and have a Catholic State with Catholic laws on salvation, traditional mission, an ecumenism of return to the Church and traditional faith and morals.

The Vatican Secretary of State Cardinal Pietro Parolin is a leftist and is controlling the theology in Poland, Philippines, France, Spain, Italy, Argentina, Mexico etc.  -Lionel Andrade

FEBRUARY 12, 2022

The Catholic Church in Spain interprets Vatican Council II with a False and not Rational Premise for political reasons

 

The Catholic Church in Spain interprets Vatican Council II with a False and not Rational Premise for political reasons.

Traditionis Custode is being implemented based upon the Irrational and not Rational Premise and so the conclusion is nontraditional and a schismatic break with the past Magisterium.

With the Rational Premise the Catholic Church in Spain today would have the same exclusivist theology and ecclesiology as at the time of Queen Isabella and King Ferdinand of Spain.

Religious communities in Spain today need to renew their vows and take the Oath of Office  affirming Magisterial Documents, including Vatican Council II, interpreted with a Rational and not Irrational Premise. They would then be affirming Catholic Tradition at the Novus Ordo Mass and other liturgies and rites.

Catholic Religious Superiors in Spain must take their Oath of Office in public while agreeing to interpret Vatican Council II rationally. This is the honest thing to do before God.

With Vatican Council II (Rational) sections of the Church in Spain can once again affirm the Social Reign of Christ the King in all politics, without rejecting Vatican Council II (Rational). -Lionel Andrades