Tuesday, March 8, 2022

Archbishop Arthur Roche has not informed the bishops who have accepted Traditionis Custode, that Vatican Council II can be interpreted with a Rational Premise too and the conclusion would be traditional and ecclesiocentric

 Despite “lots of blustering on the blogs”, Archbishop Roche said he is convinced that the majority of Latin-rite bishops and majority of Latin-rite Catholics around the world understand the importance of praying and celebrating the Eucharist with the same Mass.

Through regular contacts with bishops and bishops' conferences, he said, he knows most bishops have “greeted the Pope's call back to the council and also to the unity of the church with open arms and are very much behind what the Holy Father is saying”.-Archbishop Arthur Roche, Most bishops back Pope on Latin Mass, says Roche

https://www.thetablet.co.uk/news/14920/most-bishops-back-pope-on-latin-mass-says-roche

Archbishop Arthur Roche has not informed the bishops who have accepted  Traditionis Custode, that Vatican Council II can be interpreted with a Rational Premise too and the conclusion would be traditional and ecclesiocentric and not non-traditional and that Pope Francis chose the Irrational  Premise in the interpretation of Vatican Council II when he issued Traditionis Custode.-Lionel Andrades


FEBRUARY 4, 2022

Archbishop Arthur Roche, Andrea Grillo, Dr. Peter Kwasniewski and Dr.Joseph Shaw use the same False Premise to interpret Vatican Council II as a false break with Tradition, supporting the common liberalism

 


Archbishop Arthur Roche, Prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments speaks at Sant’Anselmo’s Academic Inauguration

  

Archbishop Arthur Roche, Andrea Grillo, Dr. Peter Kwasniewski and Dr.Joseph Shaw use the same False Premise to interpret Vatican Council II as a false break with Tradition, supporting the common liberalism, and the Jewish Left. It is the False Premise which creates heresy and schism and a rupture between faith and reason. So Kwasniewski and Shaw cannot ask Roche and Grillo to interpret Vatican Council II with only the Rational Premise when they teach the liturgy and theology at the Benedictine University of St. Anselm, Rome.

If Kwasniewski and Shaw were rational in the interpretation of Magisterial Documents they could also ask Bishop Roland Minnerath at Dijone, France, to interpret Vatican Council II only with the Rational Premise at Mass in French.

This should be the norm for all rites in France. It should also be the norm for the diocesan priests who offer the Latin Mass there.

They could have asked Bishop Gian Carlo Perego to do the same in diocese of Commacchio-Ferrara, Italy where young traditionalist priests were transferred.


Similarly they could expect Bishop Stephen Lopes 

at the Anglican Ordinariate, who excommunicated 

Fr. Vaughn Treco, and Fr. Michael Nazir Ali, to do the same i.e. interpret Vatican Council II as having no exceptions for extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

They could affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, with the baptism of desire not being an exception.They could affirm the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX with there being no known exceptions for an ecumenism of return.

They could affirm the Athanasius Creed with there being no exceptions for all to be members of the Catholic Church for salvation.

They could affirm the Catechism of Pope Pius X ( 24 Q,27Q-Outside the Church) with invincible ignorance ( 29Q) not being an exception and the Catechism of the Catholic Church with 847-848( invincible ignorance) not contradicting Ad Gentes 7 in CCC 846.It (AG 7) says all need faith and baptism for salvation and does not mention any known exceptions.   -Lionel Andrades




https://www.osb.org/2021/10/11/roche-speaks-at-santanselmos-academic-inauguration/

https://onepeterfive.com/mind-behind-motu-proprio/

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