Sunday, May 15, 2022

Judge Andre K. Johnstone, U.S Magistrate Judge for the District Court in New Hampshire, who is hearing a case filed by Fr. Georges de Laire, must ask him if he affirms the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) like Brother Andre Marie micm. He will say ‘no’. For him there are exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council II, for EENS. So he would admit that he uses the False Premise to interpret Vatican Council II and so avoid the Decree of Prohibitions being issued against him .But this is unethical. It is dishonest.


Judge Andre K. Johnstone, U.S Magistrate Judge for the District Court in New Hampshire, who is hearing a case filed by Fr. Georges de Laire, must ask him if he affirms the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) like Brother Andre Marie micm. He will say ‘no’. For him there are exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council II, for EENS. So he would admit that he uses the False Premise  to interpret Vatican Council II and so  avoid the Decree of Prohibitions being issued against him .But this is unethical. It is dishonest.The exceptions for him include LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc. So in ths way he does not affirm the strict interpretation of EENS like Brother Andre Marie, against whom he has issued a Decree of Prohibitions.

Then the Judge can ask Fr.Georges de Laire if LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II, refer to physically visible people. Are they objective examples of non Catholics saved outside the Church without faith and the baptism of water (AG 7, LG 14) in 2022 ? Since if they are practical exceptions they cannot be invisible cases.They have to be objective and visible cases, people personally known in the present times.

Here Fr. Georges de Laire would have to admit that he is confusing what is invisible as being visible, implicit as being explicit and subjective as being objective.

His premise is invisible people are visible, LG 16 etc refer to visible people in the present times. Then his inference is that these visible people (for him) saved outside the Catholic Church, are practical exceptions for Feeneyite EENS. So his conclusion is that Vatican Council II is a break with the traditional interpretation of EENS( with no exceptions). It is also a rupture with the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius X and the rest of Tradition.

So it is only with the False Premise, confusing invisible cases in the present times, as being objective exceptions to EENS, that he can deny  the strict interpretation of EENS. In this way he avoids the Decree of Prohibitions of the CDF being applied to him.Even other membvers of the  Curia in the diocese of Manchester, in New Hampshire, avoid the sanctions placed on Brother Andre Marie. They do it by confusing what is invisible as being visible, implicit as being explicit.

Similarly the free lance journalist in New Hampshire, Damien Fischer denies the strict interpretation of EENS by suggesting that there are physically visible exceptions, mentioned in Vatican Council II. This is dishonest. However with this ruse he avoids the Decree of Prohibitions being issued against him and his wife Simcha Fischer.-Lionel Andrades



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MAY 5, 2022

If Pope Francis interprets Vatican Council II with the Rational Premise then the Council becomes Traditional and he supports Tradition and the Catholic Church becomes Traditional

 If Pope Francis pinterprets Vc2 with the Rational Premise then the Council becomes Traditional and he supports Tradition, and the Church becomes Traditional.- Lionel Andrades 

WE HAVE TWO INTERPRETATIONS OF 

VATICAN COUNCIL II : YOURS AND MINE


Lionel Andrades

Catholic lay man in Rome. Writer on the discovery of the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.How can the Holy Spirit make an objective mistake ? So it is human error and not the Magisterium.

 Vatican Council II is dogmatic and not only pastoral.

It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms. There can be two interpretations.Catholics must choose the rational option.

Why should Catholics choose an irrational version which is heretical, nontraditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional?

It is unethical when the popes, cardinals and bishops choose the Irrational Premise to interpret Vatican Council II and other Magisterial Documents.

Blog: Eucharist and Mission (eucharistandmission)

E-mail: lionelandrades10@gmail.com

Twitter : @LionelAndrades1

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