Wednesday, May 11, 2022

Overnight

 


The liberalism in the Church comes from Vatican Council II interpreted with a False Premise ( invisible people are physically visible in the present times, LG 8, 14 and 16 refer to visible non Catholics saved outside the Church).So the 'practical exceptions' for extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Athanasius Creed, make the Council a break with Tradition. This is the False Inference from the False Premise. So the Conclusion is that Vatican Council II is a rupture with the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius X. Traditional ecclesiocentrism has become obsolete is the nontraditional conclusion.

But when the Rational Premise (invisible people are invisible, LG 8 etc refer to invisible and theoretical cases only) is used, the Council is in harmony with Tradition. Since the Rational Inference is that LG 8 etc are not examples of known salvation outside the Church, in the present times and so do not contradict EENS etc. So the Conclusion is that Vatican Council II supports EENS etc, with Ad Gentes 7 and Lumen Gentium14 (all need faith and baptism for salvation) and LG 8 etc, not being  practical exceptions for EENS( or Ad Gentes 7 and Lumen Gentium 14). Invisible people cannot be visible exceptions.So the Council is traditional, is the Conclusion. 

The dogma EENS and the Athanasius Creed are no more obsolete in 2022.

So with a traditional Vatican Council II there has to be a pope who is traaditional. The people in general will be traditional. Since when Vatican Council II is traditional and exclusivist and the popes acknowledge, it then the people will do the same. They will accept it as the teachings of the Catholic Church, past and present.

There will no more be a break with the understanding of Church (ecclesiology) of  St. Francis of Assisi, St. Catherine of St. Siena and the founders of the old religious communities.

Also secular organizations and institutions in the present times will now expect the popes, cardinals and bishops to interpret Vatican Council II rationally. This would be honest.

So overnight the Church will move from being liberal to being traditional.

The liberal theology of Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, which depended upon the False Premise, will now be obsolete and so also  his books, which carry the same mistake.It would be same with the books of Cardinal Walter Kasper and Archbishop Bruno Forte and Cardinal Semeraro. - Lionel Andrades

 MAY 10, 2022

So the Council would be traditional and the popes would have to be traditional and the people would be traditional and the Church would once again be traditional

 

The SSPX,CMRI,MHFM,FSSP and numerous others are all interpreting Vatican Council II with a False and not Rational Premise.

For them LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, GS 22 etc refer to visible non Catholics saved outside the Church in the present times (2022). While for me they refer to only hypothetical cases and not objective and visible cases in 1965-2022.

So for me they are not objective exceptions for the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Syllabus or Errors.But for the conservatives, traditionalists, sedevacantists and liberals they are objective exceptions for Tradition.So Vatican Council II is a break with Tradition for all of them- but not for me.

Now tomorrow if Pope Francis announces that Vatican Council II is to be interpreted with LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, referring to only hypothetical and speculative cases in the present times and so not objective exceptions for the dogma EENS, the Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors, the whole Church comes back to Tradition overnight.

The Council can only be interpreted rationally. So those who continue to interpret the Council with the False Premise ( invisible cases are visible, LG 8 etc refer to objective cases in the present times) would be in heresy and schism.They would be irrational and their interpretation would be dishonest.

So the Council would be traditional and the popes would have to be traditional and the people would be traditional and the Church would once again be traditional.-Lionel Andrades


MAY 10, 2022



With one move the whole Catholic Church comes back to Tradition overnight

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2022/05/with-one-move-whole-catholic-church.html

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