This is a classic video of Bishop Robert Barron using the False Premise to interpret Vatican Council II.

At first he says Jesus is necessary for salvation and then with the False Premise he interprets Vatican Council II to suggest that there is known salvation outside the Church in the present times ( 1965-2018), and so there is salvation outside the Church without Catholic faith and the baptism of water. So there could be some who are saved without knowing or believing in Jesus. Then in another video he extends this irrationality to say that we can have a reasonable hope that most people are saved and that Hell is empty.

With the False Premise he denies Vatican Council II ( Rational ) which says all need faith and baptism for salvation and which does not project Lumen Gentium etc as exceptions. He also denies the dogma EENS defined by three Church Councils and calls it ‘triumphalism’ and puts aside the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return, Social Reign of Christ the King etc) and the Catechism of Pope Pius X ( 24 Q, 27Q etc).-Lionel Andrades

MAY 5, 2022

If Pope Francis interprets Vatican Council II with the Rational Premise then the Council becomes Traditional and he supports Tradition and the Catholic Church becomes Traditional

 If Pope Francis pinterprets Vc2 with the Rational Premise then the Council becomes Traditional and he supports Tradition, and the Church becomes Traditional.- Lionel Andrades 

WE HAVE TWO INTERPRETATIONS OF 

VATICAN COUNCIL II : YOURS AND MINE

Lionel Andrades

Catholic lay man in Rome. Writer on the discovery of the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.How can the Holy Spirit make an objective mistake ? So it is human error and not the Magisterium.

 Vatican Council II is dogmatic and not only pastoral.

It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms. There can be two interpretations.Catholics must choose the rational option.

Why should Catholics choose an irrational version which is heretical, nontraditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional?

It is unethical when the popes, cardinals and bishops choose the Irrational Premise to interpret Vatican Council II and other Magisterial Documents.

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E-mail: lionelandrades10@gmail.com

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