For me Vatican Council II is a legitimate Council.

 

For me Vatican Council II is a legitimate Council. I interpret LG 8, LG14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc rationally i.e. they are invisible cases in 2023 for me. Since they are not objective exceptions for Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Council has a hermeneutic of continuity with Tradition. It is in harmony with the Syllabus of Errors and the Athanasius Creed.

 

The popes from Paul VI have interpreted Vatican Council II irrationally i.e. LG 8 etc were physically visible cases for them. Since they were objective cases they were seen as practical exceptions for the dogma EENS. So EENS was obsolete for Cardinal Ratzinger and the liberals. Archbishop Lefebvre also interpreted LG 8 etc as being exceptions for EENS. So he implied that these were visible cases for them to be exceptions. Invisible cases cannot be examples of salvation outside the Church and exceptions for EENS.

Pope Francis and the cardinals can now correct the error. They can say that what is invisible is invisible only. So they will be interpreting LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 etc with the rational premise and inference only.

In this way the Church will return to Tradition. It will be the end of theological innovation and liberalism.

For me the Church is traditional since Vatican Council II is traditional. It is ecclesiocentric. This is the Magisterium of the Church according to Vatican Council II. This is the Conciliar Church for me. There is no option for progressivism in the Council for me, since there are no objective examples of salvation outside the Church, mentioned in the text of Vatican Council II. None. There are none in real life.- Lionel Andrades