Tuesday, February 21, 2023

Roberto Fiore and the Forza Nuova members are forced to choose between the ADL and the Holy Spirit

 The political party Forza Nuova (FN) accepts the Jewish Left standards set for Italians . FN members accept the law regarding the Holocaust etc. So they also have to interpret Vatican Council II as a break with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX. This is approved by the ADL etc.

On Sunday morning Roberto Fiore and his wonderful family were there for the Latin Mass at the SSPX chapel in Rome. They  follow the Jewish Left interpretation of Vatican Council II. Even the SSPX Superior General and bishops, interpret Vatican Council II with the Irrational Premise, just like the popes from Paul VI to Francis.

They are meeting standards welcomed by the Vatican-Israel Consortium.

The problem arises when lay Catholics choose to interpret the Council rationally. Even the Catechisms can be interpreted rationally- all of them. Then there is no artificial rupture with the past ecclesiocentrism of the Church.This would not be approved by the Left.

The ADL did not approve of Bishop Williamson’s position on the Holocaust and so told the pope to excommunicate him. Technically, this was not a Catholic moral issue.The other SSPX bishops accept the Holocause figure. But it is now a political issue. Even Forza Nuova members accept the Holocaust figure set by the ADL.But what happens if a bishop does not interpret Vatican Council II as a break with Tradition? If the Council is interpreted rationally and so in harmony, and not a break, with Tradition, will the bishop be expelled?Yes. Even a priest will be expelled if he interprets Vatican Council II rationally. For then he would be saying that there are no exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, in the text of Vatican Council II. He will be cancelled.

Cardinal Raymond Burke and Bishop Athanasius Schneider avoid being cancelled. So they do not support Brother Andre Marie micm, who interprets Vatican Council II, the baptism of desire, being saved in invincible ignorance and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus rationally.

It is Cardinal Luiz Ladaria and Archbishop di Noia who are interpreting LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc irrationally to produce a false break with the dogma EENS and the past ecclesiocentrism of the Church.

Forza Nuova members are also politically correct on Vatican Council II, irrespective if they go for Mass in Latin or Italian. Like the SSPX bishops, and the bishops in the main line Church, they do not interpret Vatican Council II with the rational premise.Otherwise, they would be affirming EENS like the missionaries in the 16th century.

Roberto Fiore and the Forza Nuova members are forced to choose between the ADL and the Holy Spirit. - Lionel Andrades

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