Tuesday, May 2, 2023

Forza Nuova website

 

The Forza Nuova political party according to their website adhere to eight points and so oppose the Left. In keeping with their manifesto they could announce that they support Vatican Council II interpreted rationally. For then LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II would refer to only hypothetical cases. This is not how the Left interprets the Council.

LG 8 ,14, 16 etc would become invisible cases for the FN while they are presently visible cases for the Vatican which follows the Left on this issue.

That LG 8, 14 and 16 refer to only theoretical cases in 2023 is common sense. But the Left is dishonest. It interprets them as physically visible examples of non Catholics saved outside the Catholic Church in the present times. In this way exceptions are created for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. The Athanasius Creed is made obsolete for the whole Church. This is the ruse of the Masons.

The whole Church is interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally and this is approved by the Zionists.

With Lumen Gentium 14 (baptism of desire) and Lumen Gentium 16 (invincible ignorance) referring to visible examples of salvation outside the Church in 1949-2023, the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, according to the Fourth Lateran Council (1215), is set aside in the Church.

So Traditional Mission is made obsolete too. Since it is said that there is known salvation outside the Catholic Church, according to Vatican Council II (LG 14, LG 16 etc interpreted irrationally). So then it is asked why must  everyone enter the Catholic Church for salvation. Why have mission? The Church no more claims that it has exclusive salvation after Vatican Council II (interpreted irrationally) it is said. They why must there be mission to non Catholics?

In the same way it said that since there are known cases of non Catholics saved outside the Church in the present times; people who have been saved without faith and the baptism of water, then why must we proclaim the Social Reign of Christ the King in all politics?

So it is important for the FN to affirm Vatican Council II, interpreted only rationally. It must be asked: where are are known people saved outside the Church this year? Who has seen someone saved in invincible ignorance or the baptism of desire? No one. If someone is saved as such he or she would be in Heaven. These are invisible cases for us human beings. So they cannot be practical exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the past ecclesiocentrism of the Catholic Church.

Presently the understanding of the Nicene Creed and the Apostles Creed recited at the Latin Mass is different for the FN members and for me. This is the situation in the Church. We do not have unity on the Creeds. This is the same problem at Mass in Italian. This has to be corrected by the FN.

The FN members could go along with the Catholics in front of the Nuncio’s office in Paris, where they seek liberty for the Latin Mass. The FN could demand there that the Nuncio in Paris and the Archbishop of Paris interpret Vatican Council II and the Creeds, Councils and Catechisms rationally and honestly. This will bring the entire Church in France, including those who go for Mass in the vernacular, back to the ecclesiology of the 1962 Missal. The Catholic Church returns to Tradition with one simple move - interpreting Magisterial Documents rationally. The FN must deal with this issue and express it on its website. -Lionel Andrades

https://www.forzanuova1997.it/

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