Saturday, July 29, 2023

So before the Synod is held communities like the SSPX, FSSP, IKSP and traditional blogs and websites must clarify that they interpret Vatican Council II, with LG 8,14, 15,16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, as referring to only hypothetical cases. They are not objective exceptions for Tradition. The Council has the hermeneutic of continuity with the dogma of EENS of the past Church Councils.

POPES, CARDINALS AND BISHOPS MUST ONLY INTERPRET VATICAN COUNCIL II RATIONALLY

I write on this blog is to inform the popes, cardinals and bishops that Vatican Council II can be interpreted rationally and they have an obligation to only interpret the Council rationally and so honestly. The conclusion, of course, would be traditional.

Once they interpret LG 8,14,15,16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc as being only hypothetical cases in the present times, they are being rational. They are interpreting the Council rationally.

It would also mean that LG 8, 14,15,16,UR 3, NA 2 GS 22 etc, would no more be objective examples of salvation outside the Church.They would no more be practical exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ( EENS) according to the Fourth Lateran Council ( 1215). This Council did not mention any exceptions.

Catholics today will then no longer project LG 8,14,15,16,UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, as being a rupture with the dogma EENS, the Athanasius Creed, the Syllabus of Errors, the Catechisms of Trent and Pius X and the rest of Tradition.

ROME COMES BACK TO THE FAITH WITH A SIMPLE CLARIFICATION

Rome will have come back to the Faith with this one simple action. It would be like watering the roots of a tree.The whole tree is nourished. With the baptism of desire (LG 14) and being saved in invincible ignorance (LG 16) being only hypothetical and theoretical cases in 1965-2023, the Church returns to Feeneyite EENS. It eliminates the objective mistake in the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office (CDF) to the Archbishop of Boston. The CDF made a public mistake.

Today the Catechism of the Catholic Church (847-848 on invincible ignorance) does not contradict CCC 845,846 and 1257 ( outside the Church there is no salvation).Catholic faith and the baptism of water are necessary for salvation. The Church knows of no means to eternal beatitude other than the baptism of water (CCC 1257), which is given to those who have faith ( AG 7, LG 14 etc).

CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH DOES NOT CONTRADICT THE CATECHISM OF PIUS X

 Also CCC 847-848 does not contradict the Catechism of Pope Pius X (24Q, 27Q - other religions are not paths to salvation).So the Catholic Church is still officially saying that in Heaven there are only Catholics and they are there with faith and baptism and without mortal sins of their soul.

So we have the official and traditional teaching of the Catholic Church, being the same, before and after Vatican Council II.

Also the traditionalist-liberal division in the Church ends since there is no more any theological basis for liberalism, with LG 8 etc being hypothetical.

POPE FRANCIS MUST INTEPRET THE COUNCIL ONLY RATIONALLY

So the popes, cardinals, bishops, religious communities and other Catholic organizations must clarify that they will now only interpret Vatican Council II rationally. They will stop interpreting the Council falsely. There is a  theological epidemic in the Church. The error has spread throughout the Catholic Church like the Arian heresy of past times.


Those who will vote at the Synod in October will not be magisterial or apostolic when then interpret the Council irrationally and make liberal and free conclusion which are really mortal sins of faith and morals.The College of Cardinals in future must only elect a pope who interprets the Council rationally.

CLARIFICATIONS NEEDED BEFORE THE SYNOD

So before the Synod is held communities like the SSPX, FSSP, IKSP and traditional blogs and websites must clarify that they interpret Vatican Council II, with LG 8,14, 15,16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, as referring to only hypothetical cases. They are not objective exceptions for Tradition. The Council has the hermeneutic of continuity with the dogma of EENS of the past Church Councils.

  • This is important for the Ecclesia Dei communities. Since in the Jubilee 2025 year they will be labelled 'radical fanatics' by the Vatican and the Leftist  states.They will be placed outside the Church. But with Vatican Council II, rational, it is the liberals who will be outside the Church.Those who cling to their error, will heretical and schismatic. The Council will have changed before their very eyes. Cardinals Kasper and Koch and Bishops Bruno Forte and Batzing will no more cite Vatican Council II to support their liberalism.

So it is important for the Ecclesia Dei communities to get Pope Francis to interpret the Council rationally. This is also the moral thing for him to do.When he interprets Vatican Council II rationally, the Church returns to the ecclesiology of the old Roman Missal. -Lionel Andrades


JULY 28, 2023

Things have changed in the Church. You can know more tell me that you justify your liberalism with Vatican Council, since I can justify my orthodoxy, also with Vatican Council II

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/07/things-have-changed-in-church-you-can.html


JULY 27, 2023



Catholics must appeal to the Synod voters to interpret Vatican Council II only rationally and ask Pope Francis and the cardinals and bishops to do the same.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/07/catholics-must-appeal-to-synod-voters.html


 JULY 27, 2023



Talks on Vatican Council II being in harmony with Tradition and there being Two Interpretations of the Council, one is rational and the other is irrational : Pope Francis is Magisterial on Vatican Council II when he interprets the Council with a Rational Premise only : The College of Cardinals must do the same before they elect a new pope

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/07/talks-on-vatican-council-ii-being-in_27.html











JULY 28, 2023

Things have changed in the Church. You can know more tell me that you justify your liberalism with Vatican Council, since I can justify my orthodoxy, also with Vatican Council II

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/07/things-have-changed-in-church-you-can.html

TALKS ON VATICAN COUNCIL II BEING IN HARMONY WITH TRADITION AND THERE BEING TWO INTERPRETATIONS OF THE COUNCIL, ONE IS RATIONAL AND THE OTHER IS IRRATIONAL.

If you are a group of Catholics, liberal or traditionalist, I am willing to speak about this subject. I can present the material on this blog in an orderly way for you to understand quickly what I keep writing about. I available am in Rome ( only Rome) and there is no charge. The information will be given free. It will be illustrated with some graphics and photos.

I am a Catholic and I affirm the teachings of the Catholic Church as I have said often on this blog.

The difference between me and Catholics in general and also the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican,  is that they interpret Vatican Council II, the Creeds, Catechisms, Councils etc  irrationally and I am rational.

I choose a rational premise and inference and so my conclusion is traditional.

The presentation could take 20 minutes or less.I will be available to answer questions.I do not have any new theology to offer. I simply avoid an irrational observation and we return to the old theology of the Magisterium and missionaries of the 16th century at the Latin Mass. This would be the general theology today, which is honest and rational, at every Mass and every Rite. It would have to be the lex orandi.

Please e-mail me at : lionelandrades10@gmail.com

p.s I do not have a telephone contact number and do not travel out of Rome.

ONLY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH      SOLAMENTE LA CHIESA CATTOLICA

Lionel Andrades

Catholic lay man in Rome. Writer on the discovery of the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.How can the Holy Spirit make an objective mistake ? So it is human error and not the Magisterium.

 Vatican Council II is dogmatic and not only pastoral.

It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms. There can be two interpretations.Catholics must choose the rational option.

Why should Catholics choose an irrational version which is heretical, nontraditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional?

It is unethical when the popes, cardinals and bishops choose the Irrational Premise to interpret Vatican Council II and other Magisterial Documents.

Blog: http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/

Eucharist and Mission (eucharistandmission)

E-mail: lionelandrades10@gmail.com

Twitter : @LionelAndrades1



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