Orthodox Catholics must know that things have changed in the Church the problem with the wrong interpretation of Vatican Council II over 50 years has ended. Also the traditionalist-liberal division in the Church has ended. Since there is no more any theological support for liberalism.It is the end of seeing Vatican Council II as a new revelation in the Catholic Church. We simply have to interpret the Council honestly and this means rationally and so traditionally. This means even those who indentified themselves as leftists or liberals have only one choice. It is Vatican Council II interpreted rationally and not irrationally i.e. LG 8,14,15,16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc must be seen as being only hypothetical cases in 2023.So they must not be projected as being practical exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) of the Fourth Lateran Council (1215) which defined EENS with no exceptions. So it means that the Athanasius Creed which says all need the Catholic faith for salvation is no more obsolete. Since the Council interpreted rationally does not contradict it. Cardinal Joseph ratzinger as Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican, made a mistake. The Syllabus of Errors and the Catechism of Pope Pius X are in harmony with a new understanding of Vatican Council II.
It is new because it was not identified and known but it was always there and so in this sense it is not new. Pope Paul VI had a choice. He could have interpreted Vatican Council II rationally instead of irrationally. So he would be interpreting the Council traditionally with the hermeneutic of continuity with the past.
Liberal groups and theologians ( Future Church etc) who do not agree among themselves on doctrine and faith will now have to continue to accept Vatican Council II, but only interpret it with LG 8,14,15,16,UR 3,NA2, GS 22 referring to non objective cases in 2023. If any one was saved as such outside the Church it could only be known to God.
All the participants at the Synod in October 2023 who will vote must interpret the Council only rationally. If they continue to interpret the Council irrationally, then they are not Magisterial. They would not be apostolic.
They cannot make innovations in the Church based upon a non apostolic and non magisterial and unethical interpretation of the Council and other related Church Documents e.g the Nicene Creed and the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
-Lionel Andrades
JULY 24, 2023
SynodWatch Session 3: Participation, Governance, and Authority : All the theologicans who will vote at the October 2023 Synod interpret Vatican Council II irrationally and not rationally to produce a fake break with Tradition
JULY 28, 2023
Things have changed in the Church. You can know more tell me that you justify your liberalism with Vatican Council, since I can justify my orthodoxy, also with Vatican Council II
TALKS ON VATICAN COUNCIL II BEING IN HARMONY WITH TRADITION AND THERE BEING TWO INTERPRETATIONS OF THE COUNCIL, ONE IS RATIONAL AND THE OTHER IS IRRATIONAL.
If you are a group of Catholics, liberal or traditionalist, I am willing to speak about this subject. I can present the material on this blog in an orderly way for you to understand quickly what I keep writing about. I available am in Rome ( only Rome) and there is no charge. The information will be given free. It will be illustrated with some graphics and photos.
I am a Catholic and I affirm the teachings of the Catholic Church as I have said often on this blog.
The difference between me and Catholics in general and also the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican, is that they interpret Vatican Council II, the Creeds, Catechisms, Councils etc irrationally and I am rational.
I choose a rational premise and inference and so my conclusion is traditional.
The presentation could take 20 minutes or less.I will be available to answer questions.I do not have any new theology to offer. I simply avoid an irrational observation and we return to the old theology of the Magisterium and missionaries of the 16th century at the Latin Mass. This would be the general theology today, which is honest and rational, at every Mass and every Rite. It would have to be the lex orandi.
Please e-mail me at : lionelandrades10@gmail.com
p.s I do not have a telephone contact number and do not travel out of Rome.
ONLY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH SOLAMENTE LA CHIESA CATTOLICA
Lionel Andrades
Catholic lay man in Rome. Writer on the discovery of the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.How can the Holy Spirit make an objective mistake ? So it is human error and not the Magisterium.
Vatican Council II is dogmatic and not only pastoral.
It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms. There can be two interpretations.Catholics must choose the rational option.
Why should Catholics choose an irrational version which is heretical, nontraditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional?
It is unethical when the popes, cardinals and bishops choose the Irrational Premise to interpret Vatican Council II and other Magisterial Documents.
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